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 No.63471[Last 50 Posts][Watch Thread]

This is part 9 of the webring thread, still going!

Last thread: >>58746

How do I join?

Post:
* a link to your website
* a 240x60 banner of your website

(Optional):
* Post a link to your RSS feed on your site. Communicate with other Lains by responding to articles on their RSS feeds with responses on your RSS feed. If you're both subscribed to each others feeds, you'll see each others responses and can long-form communicate back and forth in a decentralized way.

(also optional) - Add yourself to my github page for the webring! https://github.com/gattsuchan/lainchan-webring
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>>63463

>if you guys were going to advertise your site locally IRL how would you do it?


I converted the URL into an EBCDIC card and left copies lying around

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 No.63497

>>63477
That would explain all the COBOL developers...

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 No.63499>>63501

>>63477
whats ur reasoning for doing such a thing?

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>>63499
not him but punchcards are kind of like QR codes for old people

but in all honesty, i think this is a great method to filter boring people and retards. i'd love to find a punchcard, figure out how to read it (you don't need an actual punchcard reader, just use pen and paper) and find a cool website or something similar. maybe you don't want people who wouldn't enjoy such an experience in your audience.

another reason i can think of is that it makes people more invested. you get spammed with links all day everyday and people (rightfully) ignore most of them. if you have to decipher a punch card to find a website you are most likely going to investigate further.

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 No.63506>>63519

>>63501
>find a cool website or something similar
And proceed to be disappointed, because the effort required doesn't match the reward, yet another blog.

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 No.63508

>>63463
handing out flyers/business cards to interesting looking people.
That's how some groups in the rave scene operate. It's a little cringy and oftentimes just a way for the originator to sell a bunch of stickers, but it still feels kind of cool to have a stranger to give you a token to their 'secret' club.

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 No.63519>>63520>>67460

>>63506
>oh no, a blog
can't be that bad of a blog if the method of distribution is punch cards. even a static image site like cutewaifu.com would be enough for me. you must be one of those boring people if you need a "reward" for solving a puzzle

>be me

>find punchcard
>look up online how punchcards work
>successfully decipher punchcard
>dopamine
>it's a URL rather than some random ass FORTRAN snippet
>very nice
>it's a blog
>the owner must be a mega autist
>let's see what he has to say

>be you

>find punchcard
>there must be some grand reward waiting for me if i decipher this punchcard
>maybe a cash prize or even a job as a COBOL developer
>decipher punchcard
>it's a blog
>fuark
>proceed to sue the blog owner for wasting an hour of my precious lifetime

or more likely:
>be you
>find punchcard
>ignore it, because there is likely no reward for deciphering it
>go on with my life

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 No.63520>>63537>>63553

>>63519
>even a static image site like cutewaifu.com would be enough for me
That would be better. I just hate blogs.

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>>63520
>That would be better. I just hate blogs.
Thats unfortunate to hear anon, blogs are still an excellent source of info and entertainment, but i can understand disliking blogs. Part of the issue is that we are past the golden era of blogging.

Prior to social media, many people had independent blogs, and these blogs often evolved into compendiums of in depth information on a single or a few topics, in much more depth than what you would find on a site like wikipedia (which tends to only have surface level info). They were also very discoverable (the search engines still worked properly back in those days) and had a lot of unique character to them. They weren't written on Medium en masse, they were written on individual websites with their own style and on their own terms. The blogger didn't have to worry about spending a lot of time on a blog post, only to see it get lost in the pool of other blog posts, they could place their blog post front and center on their website for as long as they wanted. All-in-all, this model of blogging encouraged higher quality and longer form blog posts, filled with interesting info and very enjoyable to read.

In the present day, it is difficult to find blogs that interest you. There is a lot of so called "blog spam", a lot of signal-to-noise ratio in search engines, and distortions from social media. But there are still great blogs out there. If you are interested in giving blogs another shot, I'd recommend using RSS to aggregate blogs, it's a relatively painless way to get into blogs.

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 No.63538>>63540>>63547

>>63537
I have seen interesting "blogs", but I feel inclined to call those articles instead. Blogs, and people describing their mundane life events and new goals that almost never amount to anything, have become almost synonymous to me.

>these blogs often evolved into compendiums of in depth information on a single or a few topics, in much more depth than what you would find on a site like wikipedia

How many blogs in this webring fit that description?

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 No.63540

>>63538
this is generally how people write blogs, right? If it isn't a "diary" where they reflect on their lives it's usually a place for people to dump the things they know about the things they love. I suppose you can also use a blog as a way to show people how to solve an issue, to talk about an event, etc etc but realistically the people who would have a blog in this day and age are autistic as hell; my experience with blogging is primarily only so I can infodump on the topics I enjoy without making my loved ones tired of listening to me though... lol

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 No.63547>>63564

>>63538
>How many blogs in this webring fit that description?
Plenty, one I can think of is sizeofcat's.

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 No.63553

>>63520
Sorry to hear about the dislike of blogs. Like music , or books. Perhaps it's just that you've never found the style of blogging you like.

There's even styles of blogging that I personally dislike. "Sponsored Blogging" - This style of blogging pops up a lot in mall and travel industries where the blogger comes out of nowhere and imposes "native advertising" under the guise of real opinions on fashion or travel. On the vapid side of blogging and unfortunately it's one style that gets high on the big-box search engines due to its sheer aggressive nature on social media.

If what above was all there is to the world of blogging I'd want to set the world on fire too.

Blogging is one of the most accessible mediums because it's something that can go direct to HTML without the need of anything else and why you'll see a lot within webrings.

Anyhow, best of luck in finding your favorite sites.

- S

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 No.63564

>>63547
This is mildly interesting. Most of the articles don't interest me though, and there's a very flowery style of writing.
>go through an entire phenomenology of spirit, solve et coagula, all just to conceive the mere possibility of throwing oneself against the absurdity of the slope again. And every time it is met with the serene silence of the recursive function. That’s the real “two and two make four” Dostoevsky should have worried about

If your main intention is to inform people, a more organized system than sequential blog posts(even with tags) would be preferable I think. I'd also say there's more of a random, broad strokes approach anyway. There's an article about Matrix, but there isn't one about XMPP. It kind of serves more as a replacement for newspapers. https://cheapskatesguide.org/ is better in this regard.

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I started using emacs to make html files out of org files, instead of using pandoc to make them out of markdown files. Now it's a lot faster and less hacky. Making pdfs out of org files' gonna be great, as soon as i figure it out.

Updated the webring, and the opml file with everyone's RSS feeds, here: https://cosmica123.neocities.org/en/webring/index.html

>>63463

>if you guys were going to advertise your site locally IRL how would you do it?
My website is about books, so I print bookmarks with the url on them and leave them around town. Mostly when I travel to other places.
>i want to create a sort of weirdo politics/news blog
>maybe even block all connections not within the vicinity of my city and neighboring cities.
What about FM radio, or a physical zine to go along with the website? Depends on the type of content, really.

>>63471 (OP)
>https://github.com/gattsuchan/lainchan-webring
Nice, thanks for doing that. Check out how the links in the index.html look like
<a href="https://3xf.eu"><img src="image/banners/fenix.png" alt="Fenix" /></a> 
but the images are in a folder called banner. You should change the name of the links so they're like this:
<a href="https://3xf.eu"><img src="banner/fenix.png" alt="Fenix" /></a> 
Hopefully you know some vim or awk so you don't need to do it by hand.

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 No.63597

>>63471 (OP)
>>63591

sed -i 's/image\/banners/banner/g' webring.html 

This should do the work.

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>>63591
>Hopefully you know some vim or awk so you don't need to do it by hand.
Now I feel dumb that I have been doing that by hand for 2 years

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>>63471 (OP)
I'm really late to the party, and will spend some time this weekend re-vamping my site to get it added to the webring. Have you considered reviving some of the existing micro-formats that were actually used back in the day by webrings for this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHTML_Friends_Network
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOAF

FOAF is kind of over the top, but XFN is really small. example XFN meta tag:
<a href="http://your.cool.blog/"  rel="friend">Lain Anon</a> 

also I know DDV (contentious figure) made openring that sort of fosters webring stuff https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/openring

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>>63471 (OP)
Big update to my site: https://minugahana.neocities.org
There's some CSS stuff too so if you've visited before make sure to hard-refresh.
Any feedback is welcome. Let me know how bad the new images on my articles page are.

>>63633
For a while I had some hcard stuff in my blog but removed it because it seemed useless. It seemed cool at the time but literally nothing supported it so I got rid of it.

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>>63600
>Now I feel dumb that I have been doing that by hand for 2 years
Feel smart instead that now you know better.

>>63658
Nice article on data hoarding. That banner, "gimp free", does it mean that gimp is free or that youur site is gimp-free?

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 No.63666

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>>63633
I wrote a microformats spec for webrings (h-webring, https://yukinu.com/blog/webring-microformat-specification.html) that makes it easy to discover and traverse webrings. The problem with all these specs though is that it takes a lot of time and marketing to get some wider spread adoption

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 No.63667

>>63665
>Feel smart instead that now you know better.
I guess I could have done this a long time ago, but never bothered to do so. I do incremental changes in the webring page once every few days, so I don't care that much about it.

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 No.63671>>63688

>>63665
>gimp free banner
I use GIMP, it's supposed to show that it's free. The one I used is an official GIMP button I found on their website, there is another that looks better but it's 90x36 instead of 88x31 like all of my other buttons.
https://www.gimp.org/about/linking.html

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 No.63688

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>>63671
here made you one, does it work for you?


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>>63765
found your website randomly when browsing i2p today :D glad to see you join the webring!

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>>63774
awesome!
is there anything else you'd like to see hosted? I can't think of much else.

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 No.63777>>63778

>>63776
you could host interfaces to corporate net like searx, nitter, invidious, etc but i can understand if you don't want to promote those kind of sites

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 No.63778>>63780

>>63777
Searx is not a bad idea. Invidious and other content streaming services I can't afford to run on the tiny webserver I have.
I really love obscure minimal stuff like from Bitreich. Maybe a Gopherhole would be comfy?
IRC & Mumble gets bland quick.

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 No.63780>>63781

>>63778
searx is also a mess of python and will be a waste of resources on very tiny servers

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>>63780
Yuck, I didn't know it was written in python, thanks

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 No.63782

>>63781
it is merely uwsgi running python that just makes a bunch of requests to other search engines and parses it to results to then display on its own site. it gets way more praise than it deserves

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I don't really consider myself part of the Lainchan webring anymore (no 19-year-old incel sperging about "muh anime girl worship", I'm just not much into imageboards nowadays) but I've restructured part of my Tor link list to feature sites with Lainchan-style 240x60 banners.

http://xanthexikes7btjqlkakrxjf546rze2n4ftnqzth6qk52jdgrf6jwpqd.onion/rollcall/tor.html

I2P sites on the I2P list elsewhere on my site, but I don't have enough sites on that one to justify putting a huge chunk of banner images on that.

New banner that took me more than minute to make in GIMP unlike the previous one I posted. You can update your listing for my site if you want. Or don't, if you don't want to. It's not a big deal.

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>>63786
can you post i2p link for i2p users? :D

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>>63789
http://mqtlargpv4247iylywxw6ibi6qpz6my5duqm33c4lcdhjg5yfh7q.b32.i2p/
Again, the I2P list isn't long enough to justify putting up banners, but every webring site I've found that hasn't gone offline for more than a consecutive month should be listed.

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 No.63793

>>63792
yeah it seems like i2p people come and go and the most stable sites are people who mirror their website from the clearnet

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 No.63802

>>63658
I like the images and I appreciate the content on your website overall. Nice job.

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 No.63909>>63910>>63962

How long has the webring been going for? Since 2020, right?

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 No.63910

>>63909
at least 2020, yeah. that's when i started my site so i'm pretty sure.

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 No.63962

>>63909
first post was on 2020-07-15

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>>64009
not lain but qorg (which runs kill-9) hung up his hat last thread, >>61656
i had meant to ask why last thread but forgot

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 No.64020

>>64014
>Shame, but is it only qorg or all of them? i can't seem to find any of theirs either :(

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 No.64034>>64041

common lain make more sites I want more banners

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 No.64041

>>64034
I'm working on it mom.

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>>63537
> blogs are still an excellent source of info and entertainment
Every single blog from here goes like this:
>Hello I'm Steve I like Free software and anime and I don't like phones and Bill Gates
with NEGLIGIBLE variation.(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST (Be nice. Helpful criticism about content is fine, but not when you throw every webring site into the trash simultaneously.))

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 No.64052

>>64051
>Hello I'm Steve I like Free software and anime and I don't like phones and Bill Gates
I don't like anime, and I think free software is meh. I do hate phones though, mostly

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 No.64054>>64060

>>64051
Au contraire, mon ami.

https://sftn.github.io
https://mm4rk3t.neocities.org
https://sizeof.cat
https://tinfoil-hat.net

They contradict your "NEGLIGIBLE" evaluation. But sure, whatever you say.

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 No.64059>>64361

>>64051
This is something I could've written here. I generally agree, which is why my website isn't part of this webring. Too few of these website owners host their works on their websites, and too few have many works to host at all.

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 No.64060>>64157>>64196>>64361

>>64054
No, he's right. The webring seems preoccupied with websites as content, rather than presenting content using a website. Bears comparison to the "working on your computer" of distrohopping versus "doing work on your computer", or when you give up on a book because the author likes words more than he likes communicating.
Which, like, you're allowed to do things for yourself. Not need to argue that personal blogs are objectively interesting and anon ought to like them.

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 No.64157

>>64060
this. I'm working on organizing my website as a content hosting service rather than a content within itself. the format is too extravagant for it to host content, so I've been rewriting the layout. I especially hate how I have to remake buttons, so I've been reworking the navigation into text (like a sane person) I hate thinking of new layouts because I'm kind of bad at float css

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 No.64171

<a href="https://freakyjewishladies.neocities.org/"><img src="image/banners/index_240x60.png" alt="FJL" /></a>

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 No.64172

>>64051
It's virtue signalling, like much of this chan's body. Virtue "counter-signalling" if you're feeling more generous.

Something else that bothers me is the amount of telling, as opposed to showing.
Consider a quality "personal website" like https://www.gwern.net/ . It's not saturated with cute blurbs like "this is where I list the books that I've read! :3c" or "I'm really passionate about x" - it's saturated with quality, extensively hyperlinked and cross-referenced content about x.

You *really*, *definitely* know that something is actually there when it has to be pointed out for you explicitly.

So in head-touching-floor-bowed deference to the janny warning, I submit: show, don't tell, for a better website, if you care. Everyone here's seen one before, so don't try and fool us.

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 No.64176>>64177>>64198

I formally apologize for joining the webring with my somewhat soykafposty website in the beginning I didn't realize we were standardizing the webring for more content focused blogs. I just wanted to have fun with Lainons...

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 No.64177

>>64176
oh we are doing blogs?

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 No.64196

>>64060
All that is true. Being preoccupied with something is better than being preoccupied with nothing however. Let them facilitate this interest and eventually, hopefully, more content oriented websites will break out.

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 No.64198

>>64176
its still a free for all despite what some people think, thats why I keep everything listed including chans and a picture of megumin

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 No.64199>>64203>>64211>>64284

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While we're on the subject of pointless and banal websites, mey we discuss the hypocrisy of espousing Web 1.0 design features and philosophy while linking one's website to a D*scord "server" or social media websites?

To paraphrase someone from a chatroom: Most neocities blogs follow the pattern of "LET'S GET ON DISCORD AND TALK ABOUT HOW GREAT THE INTERNET USED TO BE"

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 No.64203

>>64199
>liking 90/00 web design means you can't use the most popular chat system of the day
I don't use discord because it's non-FOSS and it's spyware, but most of the people in the retro web design scene are just into it for nostalgia and aesthetics.

Last I browsed the lainchan webring, most lains were using email, matrix, jabber or irc, and a few were self hosting their chat systems. So idk, doesn't seem relevant to me.

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 No.64211>>64214

>>64199
There is some validity to that statement. While places like the Yesterweb Discord server can expose people to this philosophy the people that execute it are not really taking any initiative to form something completely new.

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 No.64214

>>64211
especially so given that it takes about the same amount of work to go to an IRC server/chatroom and even LESS work to simply click a link to a list of websites

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 No.64284

>>64199
The people who do that are just in for the nostalgia, they don't really know why web 1.0 was great.

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 No.64339>>64341

Hey guys; I did a complete revamp of my site style. I was planning on putting the content in an iframe but I kept making stupid mistakes. Eventually I went "do I really need this?" And left it as is. If you ever feel unmotivated to work on your website make sure it looks like something that you'd wanna contribute to before you make it feel like a chore.

Link here; https://ophanim.neocities.org

I say this just because the thread has gotten kind of off topic; it is the webring thread, not the thread to dump your issues with the modern web. A lot of neocities users are young adults or neets and they can't really pay to host their own domains for irc and stuff. Plus it makes your reach a bit small since with IRC I only find a small selection of people. That saying; I use discord because botnets are a lot more open of a circle than more ethical solutions. All my info is already on the net, so why should I care.

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>>64339
nice but somewhat ironic it relies on jquery and js at all for the sidebar to even show up

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 No.64343>>64877

>>63471 (OP)

Not my personal website but it's minimalist, not a blog about anime and I contributed to it. Feel free to visit scriptorium.eu.org

If someone adds it in the github webring, I'll have the html file added to the site

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 No.64348

>>64341
The navigation panel is embedded through an iframe within js, it's easier to type a span command instead of updating each individual page when i want to add something there

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 No.64349>>64352

Hello Frenz

Hidden Corner has been offline for a few weeks despite my attempts to save any files I could. I must announce that it will be back until December, therefore I ask anyone not to remove the banner from your pages. Thank you for your patience.

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 No.64352

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>>64349
> I must announce that it will be back until December
You mean, it /won't/ be back until December? Haha.
Damn, and to think I removed it from Let's Decentralize just this morning for falling below the "four consecutive weeks offline" threshold. Please be sure to let me know of the new URLs via the email on my contact page when you get it back up. A post in this thread would be good too. I'll be glad to see you back.

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 No.64361>>64368>>64386>>64616

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How does lain markup their pages? I tried to go with markdown but it was too limited and ended up using a bunch of ugly hacks to extend it. Is something like pug or siml better if you're constantly going to be doing weird things? It'd be nice if there was some lightweight markup language that was specifically made to be easy to extend so one could add syntax like:
I'm an[^^]
inline footnote, distinct from a regular reference-style footnote.

> Details

| Summary
| etc.
> More details makes it a list
| Summary

Progress bar [=50%=]
and maybe macros for templating.

>>64051
This is perhaps an issue of messaging as much as it is an issue of demographics. "Lainchan webring" implies a webring for lain-adjacent topics, of which
>Hello I'm Steve I like Free software and anime and I don't like phones and Bill Gates
is a partial summary and representative demographic. My own website is quite removed from this, but as a consequence, feels very out of place. A website that wasn't a blog or wiki, but a some kind of mundane service would be even more so. In light of this, should the OP try to encourage off-topic websites and risk diluting the character of the webring?

Touching on >>64059 and >>64060, I think blogs probably suffer from the "dead chan" effect. It might help if there was a concerted effort to adopt something like RSS - both for broadcasters and subscribers. For the latter, a website or even a bookmarklet that functioned as an RSS reader would be excellent for adoption. I might write one if none exist since it wouldn't be too hard to encode one's list of feeds in a query string and use a dynamic title and the fact bookmarking only responds to the title to get everything working from a static website.

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 No.64368

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>>64361
>How does lain markup their pages? I tried to go with markdown but it was too limited and ended up using a bunch of ugly hacks to extend it. Is something like pug or siml better if you're constantly going to be doing weird things?
Depends on your use case. In my case, I frequently add custom functionality that won't fit into a lightweight markup language alone, so I use an SSG with extensive plugin support, a markup language, a templating engine, and a series of community and bespoke SSG plugins to extend functionality further. An SSG with a templating engine and plugins will for sure will make building abstractions easier, but comes with an upfront cost of added complexity. Take a look at something like https://github.com/dldevinc/jinja2-simple-tags. This library uses the Jinja2 templating engine and the dev creates a custom tag called `now` for creating dates:

<p>
The current date is <span>
{% now %}</span>. In Y-m-d format, the date is <span>{% now "Y-m-d" %}</span>
</p>

Many templating engines support some form of registering custom tags, functions, or includes, but the method, amount of involvement, and amount of functionality available differs greatly between engines.

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 No.64376>>64387>>64616>>64668

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Hello everyone. This is my website about whatever random stuff I happen to think of: https://cool-website.xyz/ .
Here is the RSS feed : https://cool-website.xyz/rss.xml .
I also have an I2P version : http://cool-website.i2p .

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 No.64386

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>>64361
php, plain html, some apis which are also just php tape
it works out

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 No.64387>>64744

>>64376
Love your blog articles, keep them going!

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 No.64616>>64744

>>64361
A lot of people use markdown or org-mode and convert it to HTML.
Some people like to use m4 macros:
>http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/research/pdf/expl-m4.pdf
>https://man.openbsd.org/m4

>>64376
I like the simple (but effective) design of your site!

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 No.64626

I find this website, you may want to see this
https://swindlesmccoop.xyz/

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 No.64668>>64744

>>64376
found your blog around a month ago when exploring i2p :D
you didn't have a contact page so I never got to tell you that your website is really nice...

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 No.64744

>>64387
>>64668
>>64616

Wow. Everyone I showed it to in real life thought it was boring, so I'm glad that there are some people out there who like it. I'll try to keep the posts up if I think of something interesting.


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 No.64835

>>64821
Just in time for week 44. Welcome back.

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 No.64844>>64857

>>63471 (OP)

Just curious if there's a directory or txt file in which you would like those participating in the webring to place our graphic banners? Or is just placing a pic here good enough?

Thanks.

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 No.64857

>>64844
here in this thread is good enough

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 No.64877

>>64343
this is great stuff, thank you

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 No.64886>>65200

Any of you folks hosting their websites on a home server? I do and I will meet family for 2 weeks and will have to power down my server if I am gone, because I don't want to set my house on fire. If https://tinfoil-hat.net is at December offline, you can be sure it will be available again

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 No.65174>>65190

>>63471 (OP)
sorry for slow progress; lack of annoucements. There was someone creating a lot of unneeded drama on neocities and I was kind of ticked off so i just stopped viewing neocities and working on my site. she's gone now but jeez that was annoying. I'm going to push new additions to the github in the next coming days.

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 No.65190>>65191>>65209>>65300>>65362

>>65174
I also wonderd, why everyone depends on neofities. when you could run an 1$ VPS with apache2 / nginx and unattended upgrades. When neocities goes down, 4/5 of the webring is offline

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 No.65191>>65192>>65209

>>65190
>when you could run an 1$ VPS with apache2 / nginx and unattended upgrades
Not in my country. Thus, neocities is free.

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 No.65193>>65194

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>>65192
Many users have gotten bad experiences with virmach, people I know had their hosts down and tech support mostly ghosted them. Also the ipv6 routing is terrible. The prices are tempting but don't expect such a nice out of box experience with them.

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 No.65194>>65362

>>65193
IONOS is pretty goot as well
https://www.ionos.com/servers/vps

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 No.65199>>65200

How about self-hosting on an old laptop at home? Is that the lain-way?

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 No.65200

>>65199
I host on my HP Microserver. That's why I have to power down my webite at cristmas. see >>64886

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 No.65209>>65266>>65362

>>65190
>>65191

rack nerd's black friday sale is on, you can get a low spec vps for ~$10 a year
https://www.racknerd.com/BlackFriday/

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 No.65248

I got an email a few hours ago saying that the domain concealed.world was available for purchase. It didn't say for how much, but I tried bidding $14 and I got an error saying it wasn't enough. Does anyone know if the webmaster is okay? Maybe they just gave up and disappeared without a trace? I'm not in any IRC servers, so forgive me if there was some drama off-site I missed

> flood detected; post discarded

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 No.65266

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>>65209
Don't forget iHostArt's 5.5 euro/year VPS offer. Calin even throws in non-wooden racks for free!
https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/4878/#Comment_107426

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 No.65300>>65362

>>65190
I use neocities because I don't really have time to spend on working out webhosting shenanigans, maybe during the summer or a long break from university I can... I've wanted to be able to self host a lot of alternative internet things I use (mastodon, IRC, mumble, screenshot service, etc) just to get my more normal person friends more interested in that stuff, just haven't had the time. Figuring out this stuff has been really neat! It's just a timesink. Makes me value the neets that put up with dealing with this soykaf!

On top of that neocities has a "community" through their website activity feed. While some use it as a social media, others use it to give feedback and comments on content, which is really useful and a lot faster than traditional email services. Hell, I even sent someone an email over cock.li and I'm not even sure they received it, so I definitely fuarrrked something up with my email client.

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 No.65362>>65431

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>>65190
>>65194
>>65209
>>65300

Lain.la admin here. I use BuyVM for all my points of presence, which are gateways/proxies to my servers hosted at home. I cut Francisco (owner) a check for about $1,500 last month for all my yearly renewals. You, however, just have to spend $20/year for a small VPS.

https://buyvm.net/kvm-dedicated-server-slices/

Reliability is okay-ish, everything else is excellent. I've pushed 8gbps of traffic through his stuff and never had an issue, even after hitting 500TB of bandwidth. Hehe. Good luck finding stock though - everyone snaps his VPSes up fast.

(obligatory note: https://webring.lain.la has been updated)

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 No.65384>>65389

>>64821
So...
It hasn't been a month and the hard drive has already failed. Anyone's got a solution? I've been thinking about running this thing out of SD cards which can be replaced cheaply.

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 No.65389

>>65384

I wouldn't recommend SD/MMC cards man. Too much 'fun' with them going corrupt as an OS on ARM/Pi systems if you turn on a bunch of services.

If you are forced into that situation such as a Pi running the webserver. I'd make a cron job to back everything up weekly to someplace external. So, if the drive does nuke itself. well, you can swap out and downtime is minimized.

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 No.65431>>65885

>>65362
How do you do your kernel and service updates, without restarting? Do you livepatch or do you have failover servers with loadbalancers?

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 No.65505

>>64821
Formatted the Hard Drive. Hidden Corner is back on tor. I'm not sure why the other networks aren't working, but I'll figure that out soon.

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 No.65626

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