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 No.58746[Last 50 Posts][Watch Thread]

This is part 8 of the webring thread, still going!

Last thread: >>54827

How do I join?

Post:
* a link to your website
* a 240x60 banner of your website

(Optional):
* Post a link to your RSS feed on your site. Communicate with other Lains by responding to articles on their RSS feeds with responses on your RSS feed. If you're both subscribed to each others feeds, you'll see each others responses and can long-form communicate back and forth in a decentralized way.
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 No.58747>>58748>>58752>>58775>>58892>>62530

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>My website:
https:ophanim.neocities.org

>My RSS (I STILL don't know how to fuarrrking work this :D)

https://neocities.org/site/ophanim.rss

I'll add onto other lains in the "Links" tab, but after a while I will make its own page :D!!!!!

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 No.58748


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 No.58752>>58763

I barely noticed a new webring thread was created. Time to update the link for that as well, I guess
>>58747
Nice website, I'll add it later today.
>My RSS (I STILL don't know how to fuarrrking work this :D)
I have the source of my website available in a git repository, with the RSS feed being there as well. It's not the best, but it might be useful.

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 No.58763

>>58752
this will be useful if/when i can afford to get off neocities' domain!! I really don't like being stuck on neocities since I'm interested in hosting decentralized services, but I wanted to wait til I can afford to host stuff like that!!

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 No.58775>>58779

>>58747
>OBSCURE has been updated
It's not a great RSS title. What was updated/added to the website? It doesn't say.

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 No.58779>>58780>>58803

>>58775
it's the auto-generated one from Neocities because OP is lazy. They don't have control over the RSS. I think OP misunderstood the assignment

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 No.58780

>>58779
>it's the auto-generated one from Neocities because OP is lazy.
Pretty much this, or lack of knowledge on how to make a proper RSS feed.
>They don't have control over the RSS.
RSS can be added manually as an XML file. It works just fine on my neocities page.

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 No.58791>>58794

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>website
http://aiboswcb66bivz36uoobhuicyn6gyilnrut4xw2jiowqhzwrjdazajid.onion/
http://amw3v23sfnh6koi6a2pjkevqqdwnoe32cfkifanddis7c7aa27mq.b32.i2p

>rss.

All set up but there's nothing there. Yet.
http://aiboswcb66bivz36uoobhuicyn6gyilnrut4xw2jiowqhzwrjdazajid.onion/blog/rss.xml

I'm a little late to the party. I've added links to other lains sites but I have yet to visit most of them. Should make for comfy late night browsing.

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 No.58794>>58795

>>58791
The i2p link doesn't work. Other than that, great site.

Currently I am tweaking my site under the hood, new sites will be added later!

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 No.58795>>58804

>>58794
Thanks for letting me know. It's the correct link but i2pd soykaf the bed again I think. I'll fix it when I can.

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 No.58803

>>58779
nooo im not lazy, i am just stupid

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 No.58804

>>58795
yeah make sure you're running the latest version, the version in the Debian repos always has the tendency to segfault for whatever reason. You can import their ppa.

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 No.58808>>58810>>58811>>58827

Where can I make a small banner for my website ? I've got interest in posting my website but cannot find any sites to create my banner.
Any help would be appreciated.

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 No.58810

>>58808
Should you really be outsourcing making a simple banner for YOUR website? Use GIMP or similar.

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 No.58811>>58827

>>58808
I think the whole point of bringing back webrings is to get the flavor that comes from having people design their own things. Using a cookie cutter template kinda defeats the point.

Go take a screenshot of something you like, crop it to bannerish size and fuarrrk around with it in gimp for 15 min and you'll do fine.

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 No.58827

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>>58808 here! i made a PSD file you can reference https://files.catbox.moe/b9np9q.psd open this in an image editing program like gimp, krita, photoshop, etc, and you can remove the filler text / image with your own :D it really is as simple as >>58811 said! to make it a gif, i normally use https://ezgif.com in a really archaic way;

1. split the frames of a gif i like
2. put those frames into my button on different layers, all in the same spot (you can do this by pasting them all in, then putting them in a folder, and then moving that folder to the desired location)
3. export each frame individually
4. put it BACK into ezgif and then time it as needed.

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 No.58835>>58846

>>58746 (OP)
https://ophanim.neocities.org/rss.xml tell me if this is formatted correctly >:(

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 No.58846

>>58835
that looks good and works with my aggrigator!

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 No.58888>>58892>>59125>>62530

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>link
https://newdigitalera.neocities.org/

>rss feed

not yet

I have restarted my personal website project after more than one year.
I still have more work to do but it's already presentable. I'm a programmer so expect lost of software stuff in the future, along with music and random blogposts.
there are still some issues like the vocaloid page with all those youtube embeds requesting almost 20mb of data if it's not cached. I have to look into either using video files directly or only loading the iframe when it becomes visible.

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 No.58892>>58893>>58922

>>58888
Very nice website. I love the intro.
By the way, can you add my banner in the webring page? I know you copied my version of it ;). Same for >>58747.
I may add my banner there as well, now that I see people here just copy it to add older sites.

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 No.58893

>>58892
sure, added you to the webring page :D

Also, I copied the webring info from https://ophanim.neocities.org/webring.html which I suppose is the most updated version of it

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 No.58921>>59034>>59416>>59970>>62530

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I used to be https://ebin.city/~galladite but I've now bought my own domain and my new link is https://galladite.net/~galladite/ and so here is my new banner.

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 No.58922>>58924

>>58892
yes! i copied yours, and i meant to ask for permission from your xmpp, but you never responded, i was going to leave it up until i got notice not to!! i keep forgetting to add you into it in the beginning, going through and fixing dead links as well, i plan on going to the old thread and gathering anything you have missed, but i assume you grabbed everything!! thank you soldier (salute emoticon) adding gallidite as well >:D

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 No.58924

>>58922
>yes! i copied yours, and i meant to ask for permission from your xmpp, but you never responded, i was going to leave it up until i got notice not to!!
I see. My XMPP server was down for a while now, and I have recently got that working again. Also, I just noticed your message earlier, my bad.
As for copying the webring from my site, feel free to do that. My website is under a Creative Commons license and every page is available in a git repository, for everyone to see.

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 No.59031>>59036>>59044>>59106>>59115>>59116>>59476

What rss aggregator do you guys use?

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 No.59034>>59114

>>58921
I like your site, your hosting setup is pretty funny. Is it just a spare macbook or do you use it as a main laptop too?

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 No.59036

>>59031
newsboat. it's lightweight and extensible.

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 No.59044

>>59031
Did newsbeuter -> rawdog -> newsboat/snownews -> sfeed and I'm completely happy with sfeed. Way simpler and doesn't need fuarrrking Ruby to build the doc.

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 No.59047>>59050>>59051>>59071>>59115>>59125>>59416>>62530

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I don't use my website for anything right now, but I might plan to do something in the future.

Cool webring though :) Feel free to check out my website
https://adacayiseverim.neocities.org

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 No.59050>>59051

>>59047
nice little website anon.
added you to the webring.

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 No.59051>>59052

>>59047
>>59050
btw, the link to your blog is broken

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 No.59052

>>59051 Ah sorry forgot the https, fixed it.
And thank you :)

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 No.59071

>>59047
i like your art!

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 No.59106

>>59031
Liferea. It's a decent GUI RSS reader. I'm happy with it.

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 No.59114

>>59034
It's just spare, the keyboard is broken

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 No.59115

>>59031
Newsboat for me.

>>59047
Nice site!

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 No.59116

>>59031
Elfeed (a package for Gnu Emacs)

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 No.59125>>59135

Since a lot of people have been messing around with rss feeds I decided to make one as well.
https://cabbagesorter.neocities.org/rss.xml

>>59047
Added you, cute website and props for using your free time well at that age.

>>58888
Can't wait to see the cosplay page!

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 No.59135

>>59125
>Can't wait to see the cosplay page!
haha thanks. all the rest of sections I set up to make are now finished, so it's the only one left. It's a little daunting because of the nature of the content, but sooner or later I'll get to it... probably sooner than later


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 No.59192>>59193>>59277>>59416

>website (please no bully)
http://lychxreo7ynykjpcpmvf4sirrv5x4ndiqe3nlrpydjueartvgsxpiiqd.onion/index.html
>irc (can also be found on the index page of website)
53bat6n263uepiqx5ysfcb4w5libgjm77c56ylm63ye6pezt7vsmvrad.onion/6667

I'll be adding a webring page shortly

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 No.59193

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>>59192
forgot banner :D

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 No.59194>>59195

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No idea bout this thread ..
But its a tech board so..

Whats the checker in small square under a Path: line?

Also , isnt it perfectly norm to simply copypaste package from compressed folder (to destin. folder) , not decompressing..just drag-drop to (like anons tell)?

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 No.59195>>59199>>59200

>>59194
wrong thread for this question.

next to checkbox is md5 hash of the file

if you drag and drop out of a compressed archive it will decompress the file

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 No.59199

>>59195
>next to checkbox is md5 hash of the file
Line with checker in -..is zipped folder's name
(Didnt find whats checker for in Help Guide)

>if you drag and drop out of a compressed archive it will decompress the file

Ok. As im not trying to unpack that , so i just better copy this ( Wondering why those complex apps for , if so simple to drag drop )

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 No.59200


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 No.59270>>59277>>59416>>59487>>60527>>62530

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Lains, I'm finally back! My site will be back up for at least a couple months or so and I have a few more things to write about. Added some more banners, sorry if I forget a few, hard to keep up. Also been reading some of the posts on the RSS feed every once in a while, good to see some activity on RSS.

Been spending a lot of time on side projects recently. I've been thinking a lot about the web recently, what I like about it, things about the web I wish were different, and have been wondering how I would design a hypertext protocol these days, what would I do differently? So I've been doing just that, working on my new hypertext protocol. Its takes a lot of time writing up and designing a spec, planning out and working on the server and client software. I don't know if it will ever come to fruition, but it's been an interesting experience either way. Maybe I'll end up writing some blog posts about it some time.

Good to be back online!

---

Also link's to my website and RSS:

https://yukinu.com/
https://yukinu.com/feed/rss.xml

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 No.59277

>>59192
RE: stealing cookies and passwords from web browsers
> displaying how insecure it is to store cookies and passwords (or any confidential info for that matter) in any web browser.
Fundamentally if you have access to the same data as the browser, you can do the same thing a browser can do. There is no 'secure' way so calling it insecure is pointless.

>>59270
Good to see you back!

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 No.59383>>59397>>59412>>59416

>link
https://thePhilosophersLibrary.neocities.org

>rss

https://thephilosopherslibrary.neocities.org/rss.xml

Here's mine.

>>59137
I took this one and added my site. In case anyone wants to work from that copy, here it is:
https://thephilosopherslibrary.neocities.org/lainchan_webring/
You just may have to adjust, in that index.html, the link to your main site's index.html and the link to your css file.

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 No.59397>>59407

>>59383
May I ask, are you the same person who ran "The Cosmic Library" page? The content of the page seems very similar.

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 No.59407>>59417

>>59397
Yes, I changed the name. Good memory there - it's been a couple months since the Cosmic Library was up. I should update the webring and take out the old banner, now that you mention it. I'll do that in a second.

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 No.59408>>59412>>59477>>62440>>62530

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Still working on it quite a bit, but here's mine
https://e3-l18-3.neocities.org/
>>58746 (OP)

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 No.59412>>59414

>>59383
>>59408
Added you both

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 No.59414

>>59412
Added in return :)

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 No.59416


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 No.59417>>59477

>>59407
not that lainanon, but I was wondering the same thing. then I'll just swap the cosmic library entry in the webring with this site
cheers

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 No.59476>>59477>>59815>>60721

>>59031

Newsboat.
Riced it based on this: https://gitlab.com/dj-bauer/newsboat-rice

And added a command to download videos to watch offline
macro q set browser "cd ~/Videos; tsp yt-dlp %u; notify-send 'Downloading '%u "; open-in-browser ; set browser "brave-browser %u" 

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 No.59477>>59486

>>59408
Alright, added you.

>>59417
It's so weird to me that you guys remember my old site, even if it's been just a couple months. I guess I always felt like no one was checking it out, even if that views counter on neocities said otherwise.

>>59476
(Not that lainon, but) that's really useful, I'll be implementing it. I've been torturing myself using quiteRSS for long enough. Looks like it wouldn't be hard to use the same hack to send an article to wget for offline reading, as well. Thanks for sharing.

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 No.59486

>>59477
You're welcome!
The interface might not be the slickest (it's a TUI after all), but it's very flexible.
It allows you to customise everything: blacklisting articles, making "meta feeds" based on querying your own feeds, external scripts you can call from macros, you can even set the number of threads used to download new articles.
Haven't used it for long, but so far I'm impressed with it.

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 No.59487>>59785

>>59270
xnp2 is better than dosbox-x for pc-98 emulation in every way.


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 No.59685>>59692

>>59662
its nice but ideas like that died quickly with most not enjoying the idea of including js on their page.

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 No.59692>>59695>>59699

>>59685
They should have made it emit static HTML that they could embed. One of the bigger problems is that often these JS scripts break if the webring host website goes down.
>>59662
I wish they would include some sort of third link to skip over to another part of the ring. Too many times have I came across an old webring where one of the sites is down and I can't find an archive of it. The min-cut of 2 is terrible.

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 No.59695>>59699

>>59692
Maybe an iframe that fetches the links from the host who would use php with a url query with a unique key to get the next and previous site such as:
<iframe src="https://example.org/webring-banners?q=1234"></iframe> 
Although this does still have the issue of breaking if the host site still goes down.

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 No.59699

>>59692
The best way to do this without a central server is probably to link the next 3 pages back and forth, something like this:

-3 <= -2 <= -1 <= 0 => 1 => 2 => 3
-2 <= -1 <= 0 <= 1 => 2 => 3 => 4

if youre on node 0, nodes -3,-2,-1,1,2,3 would all need to be down for the ring to break (or more generalized, 2 sets of 3 consecutive nodes would need to be down such that forward and backward traversal is no longer possible). For more redundancy you could even request each node to link the forward and back 3 plus 1 random node. This would make it very redundant without a central source

>>59695
frames are a problem since some extensions block frames (umatrix for example)

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 No.59700>>59735>>59750>>59765

many of the aesthetic choices i have seen are antiaccessible. flashing lights are a big no no. thoughts?

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 No.59725

I'm a total smoothbrain, I've been wanting to get somebody to tidy up the layout of my site for a couple of years now but I don't really know anybody into web design. I started without knowing anything, so the CSS is just a cluttered wall of nonsense and I've struggled to get certain things laid out how I want them. I'll start updating again soon though.

https://eerieeuropa.neocities.org/

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 No.59735

>>59700
I don't know about others but I made mine more so for the sake of aesthetic, since I don't have much to write about to begin with.
I don't think there should be any rules regarding how one should design their sites either if that's where your post was potentially going to go (I know someones going to bring it up eventually anyway).
Just don't add the sites you dislike to your page.

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 No.59750

>>59700
I'm not gonna compromise my aesthetic expression with accesibility, sorry.

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 No.59758

>>58746 (OP)
I added a page for the webring, mirroring Ophanim's data for now.
https://sizeof.cat/lainring/

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 No.59765

>>59700
anyone know where to find good information on exactly what kinds of flashing lights cause seizures or other photosensitivity issues? i know irregular white/red flashing is bad but thats it. ive been trying to get a straight answer by asking everyone who mentions it to elaborate, but almost always the answer is "i dont really know, it doesnt effect me, but this seems like it would be bad" and the rest of the time its "some kinds of strobing, trailing, or blurry patterns give me a migraine, but some dont and i cant really tell you which is which". like, im willing to put some thought into making things comfortable for people, but im not going to do it based on random speculation.

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 No.59773>>59777>>59781>>59789

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my guestbook broke and i lost all my comments :( if you'd left me a message before (or if you hadn't!) i'd love to hear from you via the "guestbook" button on my homepage.

thank you for all the kind words and helpful feedback. it means the world!

https://itsevergreen.rip/


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 No.59778

>>59777
thanks lainon, i saw it as well, but that's only about 15% of the messages i ultimately had i think. and it doesn't restore the guestbook's functionality ofc. appreciate it tho

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 No.59779

im working on my website and i will post it soon.

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 No.59781>>59784

>>59773
> Your browser does not support JavaScript!
> Please enable Javascript and refresh this page!
Yawn & tracking.

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 No.59784>>59789

>>59781
is this on the guestbook page or my homepage?
sorry lain. there shouldn't be any js on the itsevergreen.rip site itself.

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 No.59785>>59786

>>59487
>xnp2 is better than dosbox-x for pc-98 emulation in every way.
thanks for the suggestion anon. i tried xnp2 today, but cant get it to work, pop in the HDI, reset, and get a STOP screen. probably some config issue. any ideas how to fix it?

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 No.59786

>>59785
Depends on the issue. If you post a screen cap, I could answer specifically. If it says something about about MHz, hold the end key down and reset, go to the second option and switch the option from 5 MHz to 2.5 MHz or vice versa, then quit the option menu and it should reset.

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 No.59789

>>59784
>>59773
leprd supports php and mysql for webhosting. If you want, you can make your own guestbook. There are many templates on github!

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 No.59806>>59863>>59868

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Still in the cult? At least he broke out of this soykaf.

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 No.59815

>>59476
It is kinda suprising that someones dotfiles worked on my system without any problems. Thanks man, good rice and looking sexy. This rice would attract normal people to RSS (no jocking) hehe

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 No.59863>>59882

>>59806
What is with the hostility towards the webring? It's been stated over and over to just add the sites you like, there's no "pact".

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 No.59868

>>59806
>Still in the cult?
A cult forces you to participate. No one is forcing you to do soykaf. You are welcome to fuarrrk off at any time.

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 No.59882

>>59863
I'm pretty sure it's that one guy who makes "chrome for security" posts and what not. He just hopes to get a reaction.

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 No.59970

>>58921
I've made an rss feed and hopefully I'll write something at some point.
https://galladite.net/~galladite/rss.xml

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 No.59972>>59973>>60013>>60094>>60266>>62440

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>>54827
Where can I find the most complete+updated list of links and banners?
I might be a couple of years behind

https://sftn.github.io

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 No.59973>>60094

>>59972
Ok I found one, I added 60 new links

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 No.60013

>>59972
>github.io
I wouldn't recommend that. They take down projects for trivial reasons. Too many 'm's in your project name? Too bad.

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 No.60094

>>59972
>>59973
I'd like to think I'm decently up to date: https://xn--z7x.xn--6frz82g/webring/ and the source: https://xn--z7x.xn--6frz82g/webring/webring.csv
I did however add some non ring meme entries
think the unspoken rule is concealed still has the most up to date one, but some got filtered from his list

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 No.60136>>60137

[spoiler]uuOHHHHH!!![/spoiler]
I didn't post in the thread since a while (forgetful idiot) but I have been lurking in the shadows and updating my webring page recently to right wrongs. nicely done everyone.
maybe I will try to figure out RSS now

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 No.60137>>60138

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>>60136
epic spoiler fail

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 No.60138


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 No.60152

Since we're talking about RSS feeds, I am happy to give you the RSS feed of my deep fall into schizophrenia: https://qorg11.net/blog/rss.cgi

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 No.60266

>>59972
i have skimmed through and gotten most, if not all, of the clearnet sites, but I have not been very motivated to add the onion n co sites, very sorry! I want to add more onto my site in general like pages for my personal interests + useful tips i have for games i play, etc, but I really have not had motivation todo anything much! agony

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 No.60323>>60331>>60452

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Have some time today, anyone need help with their site? can help answer some questions about html, css, js, web tech stacks, how to structure things, etc

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 No.60329>>60331>>60338

almost done my site just need to find a good way to make a blog with RSS. anybody know any good lightweight solutions? I was thinking pandoc but dont think I can make rss feeds with it ( though I have very limited knowledge on creating rss )

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 No.60331>>60338

>>60323
Hey, that's a cool offer. I'm at thePhilosophersLibrary.neocities.org, I'm actually working on a major rewrite. I'm making a simple SSG based on book publishing. I'll write the books in txt using markdown, then a script makes a pdf out of that (using awk to convert markdown into latex code) and a html webpage for the book so the url looks like thePhilosophersLibary.neocities.org/booktitle, and then it generates the book's entry in my RSS feed. All should be automatic, I'll just need to write the txt with some metadata at the top, like in latex, but with a simpler syntax, like markdown (I'm coming up with my own markdown spinoff for this), then throw the txt in some specific directory and that's it.

I'll also be writing my own CSS. Copied mine from somewhere else, but it's full of bloat. After seeing the one at bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com, I want to make one that's very simple, because I don't need much.

I'll take any suggestions, I guess. Nice of you to offer that.

>>60329
You could download some rss feeds' files (it's usually a .xml file) from different sites from the webring, compare them to see which one you like, choose one and use it as a template, editing it manually. After that you can automate the editing, a bash script and awk or sed should be enough. There's many ways to do it, but copying someone else's and editing it manually is, I think, the simplest for starters. Or (depending of what you mean by simple) you could use a SSG (static site generator) like Hugo or something like that. Some of them generate/update the RSS feeds automatically when you post something.

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 No.60338>>60339>>60340

>>60329
>almost done my site just need to find a good way to make a blog with RSS. anybody know any good lightweight solutions?
depends on your existing tech stack, you might be able to find an existing library. Also its pretty easy to set up a script to generate RSS, you can use the wikipedia example (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS#Example) for help on setting up the format.

>>60331
>I'll write the books in txt using markdown, then a script makes a pdf out of that (using awk to convert markdown into latex code)
iirc you can go straight from markdown to pdf with pandoc, what is awk converting in this case?

>'ll also be writing my own CSS. Copied mine from somewhere else, but it's full of bloat. After seeing the one at bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com, I want to make one that's very simple, because I don't need much.

I was going to suggest checking out classless CSS frameworks, but I noticed your actually already using one (air). You can always try limiting the number of HTML tags your using and dead code eliminate one of the classless frameworks (heres a list of them: https://github.com/dbohdan/classless-css) to only the few tags you need. A lot of the bloat in these frameworks is to try to fix edge cases with certain browsers, where a lot of conditional logic and vendor tags are needed.

Also looks like pandoc is including a conditional comment to a cloudflare domain, might want to replace with a selfhosted copy of the html5 shiv lib, but only applies site visitors using old IE version:

<!--[if lt IE 9]>
<script src="/html5shiv-printshiv.min.js"></script>
<![endif]-->

>I'll just need to write the txt with some metadata at the top, like in latex, but with a simpler syntax, like markdown (I'm coming up with my own markdown spinoff for this),
some static site generators support frontmatter at the top of markdown files, you can use a similar format in your markdown files for metadata. many SSGs use yaml format in the frontmatter and markdown for content, like this:

---
meta1: value1
meta2: value2
---


# Book title

Some book text

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 No.60339

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>>60338
forgot to include name and image

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 No.60340

>>60338
>iirc you can go straight from markdown to pdf with pandoc, what is awk converting in this case?
That's right, I'm doing something like that but adding some more functionality. For example, you can use markdown to say "this image goes here" with quite a simple syntax, and pandoc can make pdfs and htmls and epubs and whatnot out of that. But if you wanna say "this image goes here and it's justified to the right", or something like that, just a little bit too specific, it's out of the scope of markdown and you have to write in the whole latex snippet if it's a pdf, ir the html if it's for a website, etc. So, awk can replace something like [image.jpg / right] with the whole latex line that says that image.jpg should be right-justified in the pdf - which is quite a clumsy line, latex being latex. And so on - adding little bits of functionality like that.

>I was going to suggest checking out classless CSS frameworks, but I noticed your actually already using one (air).

I just copied that CSS in without understanding much of it - but for a rewrite I'd like to understand every line, so I'll start off with what I know, and follow your tip from there. Classless CSS frameworks look great - I think I could use them quite a lot, not just for the website itself but also to make fancier epubs. And that github repo is quite handy. Thanks a lot.

>Also looks like pandoc is including a conditional comment to a cloudflare domain

Good eye! I hadn't seen that. I'll just remove it, at the cost of making users of 10+ years-old versions of Internet Explorer unable to properly enjoy the blessings of html5 on my website. If I ever come across a computer running on such an old browser I'll use it to check out my site and see how it breaks, out of curiosity. And then upgrade it to lynx or something.

>some static site generators support frontmatter at the top of markdown files

Well that seems to be exactly the wheel I'm reinventing. Except instead of marking it with --- as in your example, I'm commenting the metadata out with % signs, because that's how it's done in latex. That's reassuring.

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 No.60452>>60535

>>60323
Any good Perl CGI resources?

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 No.60469>>60470>>60478>>60510

Hi lainons. I am ashamed to admit that I haven't lurked nearly long enough to post yet, and I am sure that this question is posted countless times every thread. But I am going to ask it again anyway Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA!.

So I have my domain name and server, and can connect to my default index page. Now I just have to..... make the website. What is the best way to go about this as someone who knows no html/css/javascript? Should I learn basic html/css and build my site from scratch? Should I use a static site generator like Hugo? Should I do something else entirely? I am a bit out of my depth here and would appreciate Lain's advice.

Right now I am leaning towards using a site generator, but I am worried it will leave me no room to edit and personalize my site later, which is the whole point of having one in the first place.

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 No.60470>>60478>>60482

>>60469
>Should I learn basic html/css and build my site from scratch?
Learning basics of HTML+CSS can be done in a weekend. I recommend W3Fools (only good for learning HTML+CSS and basic JabbaShit. The rest of the tutorials are bad) and Mozilla Developer Network. You also need a text editor, if you don't already have one. I recommend NeoVim, Emacs or VSCodium (sic).
>https://www.w3schools.com/html/
>https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn
>https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_boxmodel.asp & https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn/CSS/Building_blocks/The_box_model
If you write the HTML files by hand, you will have more control. Even if you later decided to use Hugo (or something similar), you would benefit from knowing the basics of HTML+CSS.

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 No.60478>>60482

>>60469
You'll be better off in the long run if you take the time (which isn't that long, mind you) to learn some html and css now. Plus, you'll feel much more accomplished afterwards.

>>60470
Nvim and emacs are both great editors, but they can take a bit of learning and pretty much require you to fine-tune and personalize them to your liking. If you learn nvim, use vim-plug to install extensions easily, and I recommend CoC (Conquer of Completion) plugin for suggestions and auto-completions while typing.

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 No.60482>>60486>>60488>>60512

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>>60470
>>60478
Thanks. I will do it properly writing my own html then. I already use vim for everything so that isn't a problem.
Do I have to worry about security at all? I am selfhosting from a soykafty laptop and I have a bunch of ports open on various devices including port 22 for ssh. Will glowies try to get in?

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 No.60486

>>60482
>selfhosting from laptop
oh boi, i will pray for you
>Will glowies try to get in?
aint that obvious

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 No.60488

>>60482
>Do I have to worry about security at all?
Probably not much as long as you keep things simple and don't have a target on your back. Consider hosting your stuff exclusively over tor and/or i2p.
>Will glowies try to get in?
They're already in.

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 No.60510>>60534>>62440

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>>60469
Well I have a minimum viable product, here is Yet Another Personal Blog Site you guys can add to the pile. I was going to wait to figure out RSS before posting here, but that seems like it's going to take a while as I'm probably going to roll my own bash script to do it.

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 No.60512>>60515>>60524

>>60482
>Do I have to worry about security at all? I
You need to use fail2ban. There are some guides, like https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/guides/linux-hardening.html

>I am selfhosting

Pls seriously consider using Neocities.

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 No.60515>>60524

>>60512
>Pls seriously consider using Neocities.
Neocities is great for getting your feet wet with static sites, but if in the future lainon wants to do backend stuff Neocities just won't cut it.

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 No.60523

what happened to xenobyte.xyz ? it turned into a gitea instance?

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 No.60524

>>60512
>Pls seriously consider using Neocities
>>60515
This anon is right. I want to be able to serve files and run arbitrary code server-side.

I will look into getting a reverse-proxy. Then I can be as retarded as I like on my end.

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 No.60527>>60535>>60893

>>59270
Hi dear friend! I am also back! I have changed my layout a bit and
>I HAVE A NEW URL!!!!
now I will update my banner maybe soon!

well, until then I have to add ALL of new people since my absence. See you guys on the flipside, I will update you guys soon!

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>>60510
added, good luck
>seems like it's going to take a while as I'm probably going to roll my own bash script to do it.
what I used while taping together my php rss generation: https://validator.w3.org/feed/check.cgi
just follow all the tips it complains about until its fully valid according to the service, very helpful

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 No.60535>>60620

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>>60527
glad to see you back alienozi! I updated my site with your new url and will be the new url next time i build my site

>>60452
here's two resources for this:
http://www.cgi101.com/
https://metacpan.org/pod/CGI

also you can try reaching out to qorg for more help, he uses perl cgi scripts for some of his sites:

https://qorg11.net/info.en.xhtml

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 No.60620>>60625>>60643>>60646

>>60535
can I use cgi on neocities? would like to implement cool stuff but it seems that unfortunately only javascript is supported

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 No.60625

>>60620
could you elaborate?

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 No.60643>>60646>>60667

>>60620
No, you can only use static HTML on neocities itself so you would need some other service to provide CGI.

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 No.60646

>>60620
>>60643
Or you can, you know, not rely on 3rd-party services for website building? Building a simple semi-dynamic site requires little time and skill.

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 No.60667>>60758

>>60643
> you can only use static HTML on neocities
No, you can make the HTML dynamic via JavaScript. What you meant is that you can only use front-end scripting, but not back-end scripting.

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 No.60678

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I'm around today, if anyone needs help with their site or has questions about HTML, CSS, JS, RSS, webdev, etc let me know, will see where I can help

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 No.60721

>>59476
lol, aside the colors, I had exactly the same setup in 2019, he probably stole it from me

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 No.60722

>>58746 (OP)
Do we have a git repo containing the webring (banners + links)? it's time I show my website some love again

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 No.60758

>>60667
alright thank you this made me understand what was the issue. I think I will leave my website as is at this point

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 No.60783>>60784

Anyone have any links guides to making an actually good looking website?

I'm working on a site at the minute and have a homepage etc. set up and four article and a couple small interest pages but its all pure HTML, all wrote manually, and all updated manually, so when I want to add a new article or whatever when I want to add a link to it to my homepage I'm manually editing the file for the homepage to insert the link and reformat the page to put it in the center.

I want to do something where I basically can have a feed on the homepage that automatically shuffles in the newest post when I add something to the site, but I'm not sure how to even begin going about doing this.

I have no coding or web design experience at all, I'm just learning off of W3 schools.

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 No.60784>>60790

>>60783
>Anyone have any links guides to making an actually good looking website?
You could use https://paletton.com or https://terminal.sexy to get a color scheme. Also, try to use relative units (like em and %) when making the layout.

>I want to do something where I basically can have a feed on the homepage that automatically shuffles in the newest post when I add something to the site, but I'm not sure how to even begin going about doing this.

The simple way of doing this would be to have a file called blog.html (or just index.html). The blog.html file contains an unordered list that contains links to your individual blog entries (name each like blog_entry_2022-06-15_1.html). You should create a blog_skel.html that you use as a template for your new entries. Alternatively you could make separate files for <head></head> etc. and then #include them using M4 (but it can be just more work).

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 No.60790

>>60784
Alright thanks, I'll take a look at both.
I'm just barely starting to learn how to create style sheets so not having to struggle through colour theory as well is going to help.

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 No.60831>>60832>>60833>>60835>>61039

I want to make a website, but my paranoia makes me feel that someone will link my site to my real identity and that I'll somehow end up getting cancelled because of an offhand comment I made that in the future is decided to be wrongthink.
Did any of you have similar feelings, and how did you overcome them if so?

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 No.60832>>60833>>61985

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>>60831
in my experience interacting with people, if you're this deeply afraid of muh cancel culture then you probably should get cancelled. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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 No.60833>>60893

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>>60832
Yeah, I should just let a bunch of loud, mentally impaired people on Twitter and Reddit harass me because my opinions are different than theirs, right?

>>60831
When/If I do go public with some of my programs in the future, I'm going to host as much of it as I can. That means no Twitter (I wouldn't bother with it anyways even if loud idiots weren't a problem since Twitter is entirely worthless to me personally), no Github, maintaining communities on self-hosted platforms like Matrix and other simple forums, etc.
They would have a hard time doing anything to me if they can't get me kicked off of communities I'm not even on in the first place. Outside of that there really isn't anything they can do to me since I'm more than willing to self-defend.

Maybe employment is a problem for you in which case you need to figure out right now whether you want jobs bad enough that you'll be conformist with a profile picture of you smiling on every website you use per the companies orders. There will always be opportunities available to you even if most places reject you because of the Twitter loudmouths.

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 No.60835

>>60831
I have multiple online identities and the one I use for Lain (and program focused communities has a whole) is the most horrid one yet nobody has put two and two together.
I think so as long as you're consistent about keeping such identities seperate you are fine.
The chances of such an event occurring are low unless you're deliberately touching the soykaf enough for the soykaf to jump at you.

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 No.60893>>60939

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>>60527
I'm glad my abysmal blogging style is catching on somehow
>>60833
>Yeah, I should just let a bunch of loud, mentally impaired people on Twitter and Reddit harass me because my opinions are different than theirs, right?
what kind of social life do you lead where brewing soykaf gets you in any sort of trouble? even if why wouldnt you be able to separate online, online (real life) and real life. personally I dont even bother keeping a real life idenity going I just tell people I dont bother with social media and thats it, nothing to find no strings to connect

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 No.60935>>60937>>60944>>60967

Do any of you use linters/checkers for your HTML or do you just hope you aren't overlooking anything?
t. just realized I forgot a closing > on over 60 pages

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 No.60937>>60966

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>>60935
>Do any of you use linters/checkers for your HTML or do you just hope you aren't overlooking anything?
many editors have linters, but i typically don't use a linter while writing html and instead just run all my pages through a beautifier at the end, essentially same end result

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 No.60939>>60966

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>>60893
>what kind of social life do you lead where brewing soykaf gets you in any sort of trouble?
Its more of a "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of the cure" kind of thing. Who knows what kind of weirdos you'll end up dealing with in the future (and I'm not just referring to weirdos on the internet but weirdos in real life as well).
All it takes is one single person to destroy your entire life. Look at the war between some British guy called Vordrak against Kiwifarms. He completely crippled the infrastructure of the site to the point that the owner Josh had to bring almost everything under his control hosting-wise. That means his own physical colocated servers, his own IP range, and lots of other weird things just so someone in the chain doesn't pull the plug with a single concerned phone call. He spends over a thousand dollars USD a month just to keep the lights on.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/where-the-sidewalk-ends-an-internet-story.58353/ https://archive.ph/founU
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2021-10-28/where-sidewalk-ends-death-internet https://archive.ph/2KNMY

Realistically, I will probably never have to deal with this level of harassment, but I'd still rather not make myself immediately vulnerable by being on Twitter or Github or whatever.

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 No.60944

>>60935
I use https://validator.w3.org/ but there is also https://validator.nu/
Also, check out the browser console (part of inspect element tools).

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 No.60966>>60967

>>60939
>Its more of a "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of the cure" kind of thing.
you make a very valid point, I originally probably supsected your concerns to be more service level. getting back to your original questions:
>my paranoia makes me feel that someone will link my site to my real identity
it will ofcourse not be bulletproof (in the end nothing really is), but you have to draw the line somewhere; try to keep your site off big hosting companies, I have found the smaller and cheaper the hosting the less the hosting companies care. this will lower the chance they are harassable for your details or pull plugs. as a sidenote to that always try to use non personal payment methods, either proxy paypals or crypto. again not bulletproof but better than nothing
and ultimately, if getting canceled worries you so much. try to stay out of sight of those people, dont put content up on your famous youtube channels, dont participate in drama linked projects on github etc etc. if you absolutely must again try to keep those identies separate from your site and real life one.
>Did any of you have similar feelings, and how did you overcome them if so?
its been a thought in the back of my mind a couple times, especially after getting tangled up in some chan related drama projects on github on an account that links to site and other pojects. but two things keep me from caring too much in those situations:
there is nothing about my real identity on the internet, never bothered with social media, the only thing I have is a real name gmail for real life related things like making appointments or government nonsense. I understand that if you didnt take this lifepath on the internet you cant reverse it, but it works out for me.
secondly but also useful, theres little life to destroy. a couple distant relatives and thats about all theres left of it, I could find another place to live, get another job and move the server hosting to another place without worrying about any sorts of connection with the current ones. most of the 'canceled' victims seem to be alienated in social circles and lose their following, I have neither to worry over.
thanks for reading my probably useless rambling be sure to get on with your site and throw in a banner when you get over your paranoia I'm just 1 banner short of my webring banners being divisible by 3
>>60937
vim takes care of missing closing tags and all other pairs. if the browser then also doesnt yell at me in the console and the site renders I couldnt care less

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 No.60967

>>60966
replied to the reply of >>60935 not the actual post mb here you go have a (You) too

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 No.61039>>61046

>>60831
I'm not worried about getting cancelled because I'm simply not important enough.

I *am* concerned about people I know in real life connecting my normal person presence to my wired presence. I publish some things under both names so it is easy to do if you are looking for it.

I write it off as very unlikely, and if you are autistic enough to have found my "secret" identity, you are probably cool with what I post.

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 No.61046>>61059

>>61039
> I'm not worried about getting cancelled because I'm simply not important enough.
For now, you don't know what the future brings. Plan accordingly.

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 No.61059

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>>61046
I understand your point and agree with you, but at the same time I'm not going to censor myself (other than maintaining an anonymous identity seperate from my public one). If it ever becomes a problem I'm going down with the ship.

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Hi!
I'm creating Heimdall, a tech blog and service provider. It's still a big WIP but the bare bones are here.
I plan on adding articles, more websites on the webring page and a RSS feed whenever possible. Hope you'll like it!

>website

https://heimdall.pm/
http://csuefmnnyexsopqtxs2lwrjiffpnndabyfrhz7j6z7d3bmt567ws4pqd.onion/

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 No.61219

>>61218
I dont know why my banner became a spoiler lol
Sorry for that

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 No.61223>>61224>>61238>>61239

>>61218
Suggestion for the mail service implementation, you could also add a temp variety.

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 No.61224

>>61223
theirs lot of websites that require your email for bs reasons before even using them so it would be nice if their was some tor friendly temp mail implementation.

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 No.61238>>61261

>>61223

Sorry, I don't intend to provide temp mails. A lot of mail servers are considered as spam after providing them.
And since me and some friends use it as our primary mail accounts, this would be kinda annoying to be flagged as spam.

If you still want a mail, you can just send me an e-mail tho. I'll add a better mail registration system and a «« code of conduct »» later.

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 No.61239

>>61223

I should've added that the mail service is primarily focused on providing personal/« serious » mail accounts (except for wideput.in kek).

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 No.61246>>61248