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 No.73638[Last 50 Posts][Watch Thread]

Pat 12 of the webring thread!

How do I join?

Post:
* a link to your website
* a 240x60 banner of your website

(Optional):
* Post a link to your RSS feed on your site. Communicate with other Lains by responding to articles on their RSS feeds with responses on your RSS feed. If you're both subscribed to each others feeds, you'll see each others responses and can long-form communicate back and forth in a decentralized way.
* Share your tech stack. What tools are you using to build your site, resources for learning how to build sites, guides on self hosting and shared hosting, etc, etc. Help new anons set up their own sites and join the webring.

Prior thread (11): https://lainchan.org/%CE%A9/res/70358.html
Prior prior thread (9): https://lainchan.org/%CE%A9/res/63471.html
Combined Webring RSS OPML: https://yukinu.com/static/opml/webring.opml
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 No.73643>>73644

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glad a new thread was made for this, i thought it had been a while since i'd seen any activity on the ring

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 No.73644>>74410

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* My site: https://yukinu.com
* My RSS: https://yukinu.com/feed/rss.xml
* My tech: my site is hosted on an ubuntu VPS. The main Yukinu site is built statically using a JS-based SSG, and I use lighttpd for a web server. My forum is based on phpBB3 and my git instance is based on a Gitea fork (forgejo). My Invidious instance is hosted in a docker container (bit easier to deploy that way, although I typically prefer no containerization to reduce overhead).

>>73643
>glad a new thread was made for this, i thought it had been a while since i'd seen any activity on the ring
trying to keep it going as long as there is still some interest, pretty neat that the threads have been going this long

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 No.73645

i love it. gonna start on mine

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 No.73647>>73654>>73682>>74125>>74410>>75685

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nice, was starting to think it was over
since its early and I'd like to see that standard format used more I guess I'll repost my stuff as well. in most rings and should have it mostly correctly updated still on mine

* My site: https://xn--z7x.xn--6frz82g/
* My RSS: https://xn--z7x.xn--6frz82g/blog/rss/
* My tech: its all nginx with hand bodged php, both unsavably outdated, on a very outdated vps I pay 15 usd a year for. theres a tiny tmp host and blog for some 'content' but my main use was always just having a self controlled place to upload pics to share, to great annoyance of people seeing the url. about the url since its a fully unicode domain both 猫.移动 and xn--z7x.xn--6frz82g are valid, dns records only really understand the ascii punycoded one, but browsers and most other things will cope with the moonrunes.
see also attached the high quality overview of the blogging backend, though it doesnt list that I later added thumbnails, you get the idea its all on request from only the flat files.

Cheers to the new thread hope it keeps going.

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 No.73654

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>>73647
one of my favorite sites on the ring

i'll repost as well as when I posted my site last time I didn't have an RSS feed to share

* My site: https://jahanrashidi.com
* My RSS: https://jahanrashidi.com/rss/
* My tech: I use a lot of PHP and MySQL on the site to keep things automated. Hosting-wise I use Bluehost (yuck, I know). I talk about it a bit more on my about page if you're interested https://jahanrashidi.com/about/#site

Happy gardening

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 No.73655

>>73653
working does kind of suck

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 No.73657>>73658

Hi, im the owner of skumsoft.ltd/slimenet, I saw in the previous thread that some were considering removing me from the webring because I don't have the webring listed, but I do! I have the whole time, but it's admittedly very out of date.

Ill fix that here soon

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 No.73658

>>73657
alright, Ive updated my mirror of the web ring (I just swiped all the links from the lain.la page)

I also put an 88x31 button on my side panel to hopefully make it a bit easier for people to find, as well as having it on my links page where it was initially

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 No.73662>>73663

Hey all https://deurist.neocities.org/ here,

I haven't been active here for over 2 years. Mostly wrote a lot and did monkey desk work for big pharma. Will try to update my page with 3-4 chapters from a standalone sci-fi thingy I am writting.

Do we have a newish page with all other banners?

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 No.73663

>>73662
Think sizeof has the all newest ones
https://sizeof.cat/post/lainring/

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 No.73668>>73669>>73678>>73680

I've written a ton of pages and want to regularise the headers and footers between all of them.
Is there a more elegant way to do that then just manually copy pasting the header and footer sections over each page?
Yes I know I should've done this first but I wasn't sure what I wanted to to put in them. Looking online gives me advice for making auto updating stuff and advice for specific services, but I'm using bluegriffon and writing most stuff by hand.

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 No.73669>>73797

>>73668
I write my pages just as the body html content, and have a little script which inserts this into a page template whenever I want to build my site. This way if I want to change i.e. sidebar stuff I can just do it in the template and then rebuild.

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 No.73670>>74425>>74817

>>73638 (OP)

So this thread is almost like a re-introduction? Rad.

Just want to say to those who added me in the past. Thank you very much! Really dig the concept of this webring and hope to see it grow.

* My Clearnet Site: https://www.s-config.com
* My Onion Site: http://xjfbpuj56rdazx4iolylxplbvyft2onuerjeimlcqwaihp3s6r4xebqd.onion
* My I2P Site: atlkfvuwwpgvnw24dkwyyxf5psrueozxb3i6zgebymjuquuquvqq.b32.i2p
My RSS: https://www.s-config.com/feed/ - v2.0 RSS https://www.s-config.com/feed/atom/ - ATOM

My tech: Anubianhost VPN (Vultr Reseller) running Debian with Nginx. WordPress CMS was heavily modified over the years to add dynamic link hooks for Tor and I2P . Cron script backend supporting WebP, AVIF, JXL. $35/mo on VPS fees + $115/yr for the wildcard digicert SSL. Could go cheaper. But simply refuse.

Advice to anons wanting to start: I got articles talking about all sorts of subjects. I do what I want. However, I'll share the most important piece of advice I was given after failing 3 personal sites throughout my lifetime:

Your stack isn't important. Where you are hosting isn't important. Readers don't care what software you are running. Content is king. You write, you code, you voice act or sing, you make music, you take pictures, You can even video blog without YouTube. Hell even host a downloadable game without needing an overlord gaming community. Tech is important. But at the end of the day. It's just background to assist your content. That's it.

One last thing, I'll attach some logos. Some people like animated logos. Mine's a little heavy at 2.5Mb but don't need to use it. I still have my classic still image logo. and finally an 88x31 for those rocking classic sites.

Server protect you.

- S

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 No.73678>>73828

>>73668
Which OS are you using and is your site public? Bluegriffin is a WYSIWYG editor, typically good for building templates and a few pages, but difficult to use when you need to scale to hundreds or thousands of pages that use the same template but different content. You likely have a few options:

* If you only need to modify styles, move all of your style code into a CSS file and link to that file, don't use any inline style tags.
* As a quick hack, link a JavaScript file in all of the pages and use a script to modify headers (however this will only work for certain headers, and won't work for users with JavaScript disabled, so this is generally a poor solution).
* Use a small build script to build all of your pages. Separate your content from presentation. This is typically how SSGs work. If your site is public I can probably set up a quick script and a mustache template for you that you can use to build all of your files from single template. You can still edit your HTML templates in Bluegriffin, but won't actually see the final output until you run the build script.
* Migrate to an SSG. Jekyll and Hugo are 2 popular SSGs. It will take some time to wrap your head around them though, but getting past the learning curve is well worth it.

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 No.73680

>>73668

header.php
<h1><blink><marquee>welcome to my world wide web home page under construction pls sign guestbook L.O.L.</marquee></blink></h1> 

<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<title>we're going surfing on the internet</title>
</head>
<body>
<?php include("/home/on/the/range/header.php"); ?>
...

If php is not cyberpunk enough for u then do:

find . -type f -iname '*.htm' -exec sed -i '/<body>/r header.txt' {} \; 

or whatever
but then you have to do it individually for future pages or adjust the pattern (or specify mtime in find) to avoid duplicates. Or start using a static site generator where you can put this in a template

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 No.73682>>73689

>>73647
How did you get this domain name?


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 No.73692>>73711>>74425>>74817

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* My site: http://my.faith.rip/
* My tech: hosted on various VPS but this primary page is hosted on a simple droplet.

Working on expanding the website as its in its barebone form now

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 No.73711>>73712

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>>73692
i like the vibe but could y'all stop putting blue hyperlinks on black backgrounds? I have to highlight the links in order to be able to read them

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 No.73712

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>>73711
ill fix it in next site update to be like white or smtng

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 No.73717>>73718>>73797>>74817

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* My site: https://scio.icu
* My RSS: N/A
(Non-native English speaker, may have grammatical errors)
* My tech: I have two small servers:
1. 1c2g1Mbps, 12$/y, ubuntu+apache2+PHP8.1+MySQL8. Hosted a static site (scio.icu), a mediawiki (wiki.scio.icu), and a typecho (blog.scio.icu)
2. 1c1g10Gbps, 15$/y, ubuntu+apache2. Hosted 2 static websites (scio.eu.org, oicsp.scio.eu.org)
I call it "SCIO系列站点", which should be translated into English as "SCIO series site". They have their own functions, but if they were to be listed one by one, it would be too cumbersome and not of reference significance.

The main site I use is "wiki.scio.icu", I call it "WIKI".I edit it almost every day, mostly my life, thoughts, notes, everything. It uses the mediawiki framework, just like Wikipedia, but with "VisualEditor", editing is very convenient and it is easier to keep creating.
I also used some advanced functions, but due to my lack of IT-related skills, there were some minor problems that I could not solve. But in general, the advantages outweighed the disadvantages. I recorded this process on the "WIKI功能" page ( Indexed in the sidebar, or search within the site. But it is in Chinese and may not be suitable for you.)
I've been using mediawiki for over 1 year, it wasn't created for personal blogging but works perfectly for me.
The only disadvantage is that the latest version and its compatible MySQL/PHP version have some configuration requirements, and my server configuration is very low. I often have to wait a long time (10-30s) when submitting edits.

I like this feeling very much, because I like to write things, especially writing "Charters" and introductions for projects I create, and I can be very verbose. I enjoy this, but obviously, such a "tirade" won't be welcomed or tolerated by everyone, so I created my own site to speak freely.

banner
https://scio.icu/webring/SCIO.avif
https://scio.icu/webring/scio.png

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 No.73718

>>73717

Sorry, I forgot to mention that everything in it is in Chinese. Even Chinese people can't understand some of the content because I used a lot of unconventional vocabulary and usage, so it may not be friendly to you —— that's why The main reason why I created my own site and lurked around the web but rarely participated in discussions.

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 No.73734

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My Site: https://articexploit.xyz
My RSS: https://articexploit.xyz/blog/rss.xml
My Tech: home server Dell Optiplex 9020 i7-4790 16GB ddr3. Debian 11. Docker. Custom image with php+apache+additional packages for php. Currently using cloudflare tunnels but looking to switch to a vps with ssh tunneling (lmk if you have suggestions about that)

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 No.73797>>73856>>75762

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https://bass2nick.com/
https://bass2nick.com/rss.xml
photography, filehosting, a forum, hobby articles, and some other stuff
VPS from tornado vps (110 USD/yr), debian, nginx, domain from bookmyname

>>73669
That sounds like something I'd like to incorporate. Might be nice to combine a site building script with my backup script.

If I wasn't writing all my html and the rss feed by hand, I'd probably update 3x as often.

>>73717
I like the idea of including descriptions in your ring. It communicates that you've actually browsed those sites, which I'm sure the admins would appreciate (I know I do).

To curb some potential clutter, my implementation of such might manifest as descriptions on hover, as seen on the front page of my site.

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 No.73804>>73810>>73826>>73944>>74102>>74817

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* Site: https://maerk.xyz
* RSS: https://maerk.xyz/index.xml
* Tech: I use Hugo and Apache running on a Debian server. This is the first website I've made with Hugo and I really like using it so far.

Anyone have suggestions for the layout of my site? Every page looking so similar feels kind of boring. I was thinking of spicing some of the list pages with small images or gifs. Nothing too distracting. I think adding a second column could look nice but I don't know what I'd put there. If you use the light theme on your computer, let me know what you think of my site's theme. I originally designed this site with a dark color scheme in mind and the light theme came later. Thanks lads. These threads are great.

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 No.73810>>73820

>>73804
not related to the layout, but the rss. You should wrap all the stuff in your <description> tags with <![CDATA[ (stuff goes here) ]]> as certain characters (I don't remember which exactly, but I remember it causing issues for me in the past) can be interpreted as part of the XML and cause errors in reading the feed. Anyways, love the articles :)

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 No.73820

>>73810
Thanks. I'll look into fixing the RSS. I'm glad you like the articles. Sometimes I worry that I sound like a huge dumb ass.

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 No.73826

>>73804
Your site layout is nice and functional, I wouldn't change anything without a specific reason to.
Good luck with the arcade cabinet

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 No.73828

>>73678
Not public yet, want to sort out the header/footer clusterfuck before going live.

Will take a look at Hugo thanks, I have 20 pages so far and managing them is already getting complicated so I should probably migrate to a more sophisticated tool before I get burnt out doing everything manually. Theming etc. is thankfully already in a stylesheet, I knew doing that manually would be a nightmare, though my theming is very basic and I'm not doing half the soykaf I probably should be doing

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 No.73849

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I apologise for not having my site updated yet. I’m currently busy irl and I need to work on some other stuff aswell. I’ll make sure to try updating it when I can ^^

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 No.73855

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hey, its shrapnelnet. glad to see the thread is still going !

https://blog.shr4pnel.com

i'm also working on a microblog type thing i hope to have up soon.

until next time
<3

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 No.73856

>>73797
try containerizing and using a cloud service. i don't get a ton of traffic but i pay pennies every month.

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 No.73883>>73886>>75842

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>>73638 (OP)
Haven't been on the chans for a while but the website is still up

https://sftn.github.io/

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 No.73885

So many of your from the last thread that plugged their sites for the first time didn't bother adding the webring yet. Chop chop!

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 No.73886>>73887

>>73883
hey glad to see you're still around, you're site is what inspired me to create mine

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 No.73887

>>73886
Yeah I saw that, good stuff!

I was thinking of adding links to your website and https://circlesofshell.com/ to build up a little community of SFTN forks

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 No.73921>>73922>>73929>>74243

have yet to be convinced that webrings are an actual effective way of collecting worthwhile sites. its impossible to actually sift through sites that are actively maintained, find what sites host things that i might actually be interested in, there is no sort of curation for quality, etc.

not trying to be a downer its worth it if it does actually encourage people to create their own websites, but just feel like there has to be a more effective way to actually connect sites together.

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 No.73922

>>73921
Part of the fun is sorting and curating those sites yourself. Sometimes you might get interested in things you would never search for by yourself.

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 No.73929

>>73921

"Quality" is a bit of a minds-eye kind of thing. You have to base a metric on what quality means. Google PageRank tried that. Didn't end so well.

One could Neocities it and ask webmasters to generate a txt file of meta (hashtagging) words that describe their site. But as this is a decentralized webring there is no absolute that anyone would place that .txt file anywhere on their site.

But totally agree with the fact it's about exploration. Which webrings do accomplish this job.

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 No.73944>>73954

>>73804
cool Cammy banners
however, your main div should be wider

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 No.73954>>73958

>>73944
For readability? Or is it just an HTML thing

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 No.73958>>73959>>73961>>73962

>>73954
There's no reason to spend over 50% of people's horizontal screen real estate on a background image. How about instead of
main {
max-width: 600px;

you do
main {
max-width: 80vw;

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 No.73959

>>73958
Also, if you really want to show off the background image, you can make the main div semi-transparent using background-color: rgba(...

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 No.73961>>73962

>>73958
Completely disagree on this one.
Assuming most readers browse the web in full screen you are doing them a favor by limiting line width for better readability. The optimal line width sits at about 50-80 characters per line on typical font sizes.

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 No.73962

>>73961
>>73958
I'll suggest

width: 70ch;
max-width: 80vw

This will prevent the main content from taking up the entire screen but also keep it from growing so large that the lines become unreadable on wide monitors. It will also scale better for users who use a custom font size or zoom in.

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 No.74039>>74425>>74817

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yesterday i created a website because i was looking at this webring and decided to make one, here is the url and banner, tomorrow will add the banners of the webring.
mauwq.neocities.org

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 No.74048>>74425

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hi frens...
https://thecrypt.neocities.org/
still no update lol
hope your lives are going well enough

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 No.74100

OMG I DIDNT NOTICE THERE WAS A NEW THREAD. I better get to adding

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 No.74102>>74110>>74158>>74410

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oh so we are doing reintroductions ? great

* My site: https://crystal.tilde.institute

* My tech: My website is hosted on the pubNix tilde.institute, as for the backend, I actually write my website in an org document and use emacs to convert it to html, plus a handcrafted css file. I try my best to not use cookies or javascript, but currently the main issue is the guestbook, if yall have a foss alternative please lemme know

>>73804
I added your website chief, welcome to the ring

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 No.74110

>>74102
>Rule 24: On the internet men are men, women are also men, and kids are undercover FBI agents.
>this idea of course didn’t come from nowhere, i blame it mostly on American movies about “Tech-geeks”
No, it's because at one point the internet really was mostly used by heterosexual men who didn't fit in. It was basically a safe space for them, because it wasn't saturated by the people who treated them like sub-humans for being socially awkward and lacking masculinity.

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 No.74114>>74817

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hello everybody this is my site.
https://www.goodboyjojo.com/

i want to join the webring because i want to learn to be more social and talk to people and lainchan for the most part seems chill( except for a few trolls and mean people but that is with any imageborad site). so yeah this is my website linked above.

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 No.74122>>74123>>74148>>74162

I wanted to write a blog post about how to use GPG, but everything I tried to write down felt like a reiteration of something already easily available online. I didn’t feel like I was adding anything interesting by making the post.

Has anyone else run into a similar situation?

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 No.74123

>>74122
Write what you want, put it out.
If someone values it they will be glad you did, if they don't at least you enjoyed writing it.

Almost everything ever written is derivative of some previous thing

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 No.74124

Yes, fren. The short answer is to "not gib a shid". A longer answer might look something like this: https://fabiensanglard.net/blog/

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 No.74125

>>73647
15 usd for that?! You might wanna check out mvps (dot) net. Their 4 and 7 euro offerings are pretty good, and you can probably edge out some more storage with btrfs zstd compression (don't worry they have auto and manual backup options)

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 No.74126>>74817

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* My site: https://lainnet.superglobalmegacorp.com
* My RSS: https://lainnet.superglobalmegacorp.com/rss.xml
* My tech: Hosted on a Debian 12-based VPS with nginx acting as a frontline web server and reverse proxy for certain URLs, with Apache Web Server serving most of the site's content. These days I use it quite a bit as an RD Gateway, since I find myself having to remote into my home machines a lot.

I've now added an RSS feed, and I've also added some of the new webring entries listed in this thread. to the links page. I'm also writing a hybrid Futaba/5ch/forum-like message board system as a graduation project, but since I've written it entirely from scratch in PHP, I won't open it up just yet for public use due to abuse and security concerns.

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 No.74137>>74138>>74140

No banner or anything as it isn't my site, but this is a cool corner I found:
teapot.chat

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 No.74138>>74140

>>74137
so this is just an IRC server? I can't seem to be able to connect with the sourcehut bouncer

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 No.74140

>>74137
>>74138
nevermind the IRC address is irc.teapot.chat, not teapot.chat

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 No.74148>>74162

>>74122
all the time. not everything has to be a super intelligent masterpiece, though.

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 No.74158>>74159

>>74102
I wrote a guestbook in php if you're interested, it's nothing crazy, but it should do the trick
https://github.com/ArticExploit/guestbook

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 No.74159

Oh a new thread. Awesome !!!
*Website: https
>>74158
I will try it out. Thanks Lain !!!

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 No.74162>>74169>>74173

>>74122
thats why i havent added much content to my site, i know things but its only things other people also know about
>>74148
theres still that pressure though especially for this webring. my sites been excluded for threads because of the expectations anons have

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 No.74169

>>74162
I just ended up saying screw it and wrote the GPG post.
Worst case scenario, I forget how to use GPG in the future and now I have a post on how to use it which is written in a similar way to how I think *shrug*

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 No.74173

>>74162
Re-link your site, anon.

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 No.74195>>74254

I've been here for a bit and I'm one of the previous organization users. I was going to make a simple script to basically build out a webring page using a simple json array. basically put webring.json on web server root or whatever path and script will use that to keep the webring in sync and optionally generate a page or you can just use the json to make your own page. blacklist for sites you don't want to include but may be included on other instances. Simple lowtech and hopefully low effort on admin's part. I'm probably going to make it anyway just for fun even if nobody decides to use it.

anyway my site is 3to.moe, still WIP and no banner atm

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 No.74240>>74241>>74242>>74247>>74425>>74817

My site: https://idelides.xyz/
My RSS: https://www.idelides.xyz/rss/

I used mostly W3schools as tutorials, and flexbox tutorials from sadgrl. Devastatia (https://www.devastatia.com/home) helped me build the RSS feed.

One problem I've encountered with my site, is that for essential elements like the nav, it's such a pain to have to alter every single page when I want to add something to it. For CSS of course I can just edit the relevant CSS file and it applies to all pages that have it linked, but if I want to add a new link to the nav, I can't do that without editing every single page. I know there's gotta be a way to do something similar to the CSS file with Javascript or PHP, but I'm so inexperienced with those languages, I don't know how yet.

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 No.74241

>>74240
you can include another page (one dedicated to your nav) inside another page using php like so:
'''php
<?php
include("somepage.html");
?>
'''

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 No.74242

>>74240
yeah that's partly why javascript frameworks are a thing now (dynamic content being the other part). PHP is the precursor to that and will allow you to template page content like the nav. you may also want to look into jinja templates and static site generators. low tech solution is to just make a template.html for yourself and use that to build out pages.

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 No.74243

>>73921
>have yet to be convinced that webrings are an actual effective way of collecting worthwhile sites.

Webrings are an entry point for discovering new and interesting content, especially niche content that you may not even realize you're interested in until you actually see it for the first time.

>its impossible to actually sift through sites that are actively maintained


That's what RSS is useful for. Many sites you find in a webring will likely be personal sites or small group sites dedicated to a particular hobby or niche. These sites are often not updated frequently, but rather are maintained passively over long periods of time. In many cases, this can lead to higher quality content with more depth to it since the authors of the content aren't under pressure to frequently drip out content every day; the algorithms on the large platforms force the content creators to publish frequently without the necessary time for refinement, and thus you often get quantity over quality. Unfortunately, the operating systems and applications that most people are familiar don't have a proper interface for getting infrequent updates from many small sites over long periods of time. Suppose you found 100 interesting sites that publish 1 post every month, you would need to keep 100 browser tabs open and cycle through all of them every day to see which 3 on average sites have an update. With RSS however, you can subscribe to the RSS feed of all these sites, update all of the feeds once a day, and aggregate all of the new posts into a rolling, chronologically sorted list of posts. RSS feeds solve the problem of receiving content from smaller, passively updated sites, but it will take some time to subscribe to enough feeds.

>find what sites host things that i might actually be interested in


You typically have to find a site published by someone who has a lot of similar interests, and from there try to follow a lot of their external links to find more things you may be interested in. It's similar to receiving recommendations from friends, but it can take a while to find a site that you really resonate with.

>there is no sort of curation for quality


It depends on the webring. Some webrings have stricter requirements for joining and focus on narrower niches, while others may be more general in nature and have wider participation. Both approaches have pros and cons.

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 No.74247


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 No.74254>>74277>>74995>>74996>>75768

>>74195
Well anyway, I wrote the tool and used it to mirror maerk.xyz's list (probably should've done sizeof(cat)'s)

https://3to.moe/webring

If you want to update your list or are just joining you can use it to pull a good portion of the sites.
Ironically, I still don't have a banner.
Script is here if you're interested, if not, oh well.
https://github.com/superswan/weblink-webring-manager

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 No.74270>>74271>>74273>>74274>>74425>>74817>>75568>>75762

File: 1700411360286-0.png (3.84 KB, 240x60, 4:1, b4rkod.png) ImgOps iqdb


My site: https://b4rkod.net.tr/
My RSS: https://b4rkod.net.tr/rss.xml
My tech: A debian 12 server running nginx on a 10$ year vps from nerdrack. I use bash scripts to generate html files from blogpost texts, add those posts to index and rss file and copy them to the server. It is not yet efficient because i am new to these things.
The icon bar thing:https://b4rkod.net.tr/file/b4rkod.png

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 No.74271>>74272>>74320

>>74270
You want a static site generator like Hugo or Jekyll, let you write files in markdown and automatically export them as HTML, lets you easily set up categories and tagging and does indexing by date etc. automatically.

I spent like 2 months making a site in raw HTML then switched to using Hugo and got way more design stuff done in 2 days, including the time it took to learn Hugo and basic Markdown and convert my old content over.

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 No.74272

>>74271
I am close to the exam season, today was the last day where i spent time on the website for the next 2 weeks. After that i will look into them, thanks.

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 No.74273>>74274>>74320

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>>74270
Hi anon. Regarding your words about being new, I can recommend checking out "landchad.net" since it has neat tutorials on setting up webservices and all that. Will be looking forward to your website for further blogposts! Uzun süredir ben de site açmak istiyorum ama YKS yüzünden kuramıyorum :c Yine de buralarda bizden birini görmek güzel. :)

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 No.74274>>74275

>>74270
>>74273
I would actually NOT recommend landchad.net, I think a lot of the stuff on his site is pretty intimidating for beginners. For example, he recommends vultr, which is a fine service but not friendly towards beginners at all, it's generally aimed at corporations or sites expecting a lot of traffic.

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 No.74275>>74276

>>74274
what are you talking about? a VPS is a VPS. It's going to be the same process for nearly any provider. Don't go with a web hosting service, it's an antiquated approach. I wouldn't recommend Vultr because he wants you to use his reflink. all of the tuts on landchad are barebones beginner stuff.

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 No.74276

>>74275
you can find good hosts here
https://offshore.cat/

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 No.74277>>74410>>74425>>74817

File: 1700427292072-0.gif (2.82 KB, 240x60, 4:1, 3tomoe-banner.gif) ImgOps iqdb

>>74254
Hello again, made a banner

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 No.74310>>74321>>74325

>>73638 (OP)
hello lainons!! its been a while :3
you all can add yourself to my webring on my github (located on the site) and just copy the banner url from the side box on my site ^^

https://requiem.moe

(ps if your link is missing in the webring json, please update it !!! i had to recreate the file from backup and lost some data)

also for those of you who saw the previous version/first half of 1.4.5, what do you think of it now?? if you remember xD

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 No.74320

>>74271
I gave it a go and compared to my txt 2 html bash scripts combined with my general knowledge about shell hugo was not very good.
It was also really big and created a layer i am not really into.
>>74273
I know his site, i even used his nginx configuration as a base for mine.

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 No.74321>>74324

>>74310

Hey bro, cool website, wonderful aesthetic and all. one thing i didnt like is the couldflare captcha at the beginning, not that big of an issue for me since i use the clearnet, but some tor users will def hate it


I also dont have github so if you dont mind adding me manually (my website is https://crystal.tilde.institute)


And one last thing, do you have a banner ?

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 No.74324>>74337

>>74321
Yeah I have a banner: https://requiem.moe/banner.gif

And sorry, I have challenges for ips with threats and certain countries that I have recieved bruteforcing from alot :pp

You've been added! ^~^ I hope your week has been comfy

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 No.74325>>74329

>>74310
Your site's pretty densely packed with content, which I like, but it's quite laggy on my end. I understand that a mobile Sandy Bridge i5 is by no means the king of performance today, but still.

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 No.74329

>>74325
Thank you anon.

>mobile Sandy Bridge

I'm sorry to hear that anon, however I did express some concern on my part about how it could have poor performance (blog post #17) and I hope to have it fixed and or very optimized by 1.4.6 or 1.4.7, not to mention mobile css because I only made it for desktop right now

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 No.74330>>74331>>74333>>74334

I've been told that my site is hard to read. What do lainons think? Should I tone down the design?
https://varchar.neocities.org
Also, how can I make a GIF button? I've considered making it glow like the text on the site.

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 No.74331

>>74330
It is not neon pink on matte pink tier unreadable but the glitchy font makes it quite hard on the eye

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 No.74333>>74338

>>74330
It isn't hard to read in a legibility sense but its very fatiguing to look at for any length of time.
It feels like my eyes are constantly struggling to refocus on the text and it hurts after a few minutes.

Maybe you could only use the effect for certain headings or something? Its cool but having it on all text makes me not want to read your website

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 No.74334

>>74330
Personally, I think just increasing the font size a bit would do a lot to help legibility. I like your style and I don't think there's much need to tone down the design.

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 No.74337>>74411

>>74324
Cool banner mate, def liking the Lain reference. However, its pretty massive for my home internet, so i will try to download it elsewhere when i get time !!!

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 No.74338

>>74333
>Maybe you could only use the effect for certain headings or something?
I might do this. Thanks for the suggestion.

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 No.74410


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 No.74411

>>74337
ty fren, yeah I'm optimizing everything right now, hopefull y in the future ill have my banner smaller :3>>74337

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 No.74425>>74433>>74709

hi, it's angelsaremathematical.neocities.org
didn't update my webring in a while. someone made a google doc some time ago with members or the ring and there was a note about me loading banners off other sites, i partially fixed that, will try to upload all of them to my website over time. also swapped some links for dead sites with their archived versions from wayback machine. i'll reply to some of the posts from the old thread..

>>72738
fuarrrk off, tardzone is my favorite website in the ring. don't tell other people what to do, glitterboy

>>72418 https://redchanit.xyz/
thanks for your effort, added

>>72480 https://crystal.tilde.institute/
added! your website looks great, you did a good job

>>72688 https://risingthumb.xyz/
sick website dude, thanks for adding me. added you too

>>72706 https://grafo.zone/
updated your banner! always great to see people still working on their sites instead of abandoning them

>>72767 https://antekgort200.github.io/
hahaha you are cool, added

>>72986 http://mkultravict.im/
great start! added. don't abandon your page!

>>73020 https://maerk.xyz/
ohh damn so many posts, so nice. added. u r cool !!! return the pink theme please for us girlmaxxing bimbo lainons...

>>73274 https://lainnet.superglobalmegacorp.com/
SHIT, fuarrrkin love your website, such a cool aesthetic. added of course, i'm in love

>>73329 https://s0mt0chukwu.neocities.org/
you have to make a banner first!

>>73670 https://www.s-config.com
didn't have you before, added

>>73692 http://my.faith.rip/
added. great start, DON'T ABANDON

>>74039 mauwq.neocities.org
added. love the aesthetic! hoping to see more from you. i actually really like your site

>>74048 https://thecrypt.neocities.org/
sick website, loving it, but the banner is lame lol (sorry), pretty unoriginal, i feel like there is a bunch of other members in the ring with very similar banners..

>>74240 https://idelides.xyz/
nice, added

>>74270 https://b4rkod.net.tr/
added. hope to see more from you!

>>74277 https://3to.moe/
cool! added

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 No.74426>>74439>>74441>>74687>>74817

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>>72738
oh also if you, fuarrrking nigger, think that tardzone shouldn't be on the ring, check out the https://gayniggersfromouterspace.neocities.org/

this website appears to be forgotten by other members of the ring... i came across it when browsing an old archived version of the webring of someone's offline site on the wayback machine

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 No.74433

>>74425

S-Config.com here. Thank you very much for the add. I have done the same. Apologies for not adding sooner.

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 No.74439

>>74426
>he doesn't know gayniggers from outer space

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 No.74441

>>74426
Great site, i love it, glad you linked it.

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 No.74455>>74467>>74474

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Anybody else getting random emails claiming their site in the webring got featured in a YouTube video? I've had this happen on two different occasions and I'm wondering where in the hell these braindead YouTubers keep coming from since I don't advertise my site anywhere else.

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 No.74467

>>74455
I've had reviews of my site from Tor. But no e-mails from the lainchan webring. No.

It's probably a matter of time. Webrings making a comeback because of the abject failure of search engines due to SEO-AI pissing in the pond of information.

So anything new/weird YouTubers will report on. After all, their business relies on middle-ware content creation serving an algorithm that demands a constant flow of data or else be destroyed. The few times I had my site looked at they were super nice to me. And thus, feel a little bad for their situation and hope they too self-host a website in case alphabet inc. zeroes them.

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 No.74474>>74476

>>74455
Link to the YouTube vids?

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 No.74476>>74478>>74483>>74485>>74548

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>>74474
https://invidious.io.lol/watch?v=sQ_o_r7krdQ
https://invidious.io.lol/watch?v=mct9oXx_WoA
Didn't notice until now that these appear to be the same person/channel, just a few months apart. Both occasions I got an email from someone who'd watched the video. One person told me not to kill myself, which I wasn't sure whether to interpret as funny or condescending considering I'm very much still alive. (And also thriving, at least by Lainchan standards.)
No timestamps because I don't like watching YouTubers go "OMG! SO SPOOKY!!1!"

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 No.74478>>74485

>>74476
I went through the hassle of watching the entire thing. The dude supposedly thought it was a suicide letter on the first video, then he read the disclaimer in the second video and apologized. These type of reaction videos are kinda soy to be honest.

>I don't like watching YouTubers go "OMG! SO SPOOKY!!1!"


yep, couldn't have said it better myself

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 No.74483

>>74476
Lmao. I forgot that to most people we are part of deep web underground mafia or something

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 No.74485

>>73638 (OP)
>>74476
>>74478

Looked at the video too.

Yes, he apologized. Wasn't him that contacted you but one of his fans. But still.

Yes, he is right that there wasn't any navigation or breadcrumb system. But should there be? That's strictly a design choice. That you write a page and DONE! It's just like reading a book. The content you are given is all your mind has to work with and no distractions.

Perhaps people have gotten too soft about being hand-held throughout a website. What if printed media like a 500 page novel suddenly has QR codes and banners at the footer of every page? That would be rather dystopian.

For a YouTuber who has been doing this 'deep web' show for so long he gave up counting after the late 200's and started over. You'd think they'd see the address bar and go, 'huh. What if I delete /pg1.html ?'

The edit job was rushed. Didn't do his research and most likely based his content off of a search engine on Tor which is problematic. Never ever provides links in his description tab, so others could investigate (and possibly correct him in the comments section).

Getting past all that, there's a consolation prize. As a writer. You did invoke an emotion for the person reading your content. May not be what you wanted. However, it shows how good of a writer you are.

Anyhow, my 2-cents for what it's worth.

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 No.74511

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Hi everyone! Just added a bunch of sites to my webring copy, really cool ones in this new batch
https://grafo.zone/links/

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 No.74513>>74516>>74605>>74817

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for those of u who dont have github i can add u manually just reply :3

https://requiem.moe/
https://requiem.moe/banner.gif

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 No.74516>>74523>>74605>>75213

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File: 1701475043070-1.gif (193.71 KB, 240x60, 4:1, grafobanner.gif) ImgOps iqdb

>>74513
I just added you to my copy of the ring and also resized your banner.
Here is also mine if you wanna add me to yours
URL: https://grafo.zone/
RSS: https://grafo.zone/index.xml

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 No.74523

>>74516
added! it will take a few hours for it to show up (cache has to cycle). and ill eventually optimize mine, its like 7mb lol + all the ones added to the ring automatically

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 No.74548>>74605

>>74476
I remember the time i was the Three 6 Mafia of the darknet, good times, good times. I had a darknet list everyone would have copied and put on his site, lol

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 No.74596>>74605>>74799

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I will add everyone here in a bit. If you are missing let me know.

Website: https://forum.agoraroad.com

Webring: https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php?pages/webring/

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 No.74605>>74607

>>74596
Welcome back! It seems that you have quite a few banners to add.
>>74513
Nice banner, but it's a bit too big to put it on my website. >>74516 has made it smaller, but it's still a bit too big for me, as I decided to keep the size of each banner up to 500kB. My webring page has about 150 different banners, it's already a pain to load in slow connections.
>>74548
Good times indeed

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 No.74607>>74627

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>>74605
>p the size of each banner up to 500kB. M
I reduced the size of the banner again and now it's around 350kB

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 No.74619>>74627>>74709>>74996>>75070>>75077

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An interesting and relevant article comparing western and eastern personal pages.
https://www.bikobatanari.art/posts/2023/east-west-website-culture

>the personal sites over there tend to be very creations/product focused. That is, their sole purpose is to show off things that they've made, rather than embody some sort of persona

>if they wanted to commemorate a piece of media that they love, they'd often make fan art of it or create some other type of fanwork pertaining to it, instead of making a handcrafted webpage dedicated to it... Their sites are solely vessels to hold their work, not the work in and of itself.
>Webrings or cliques over here usually have an admission system: you apply to be part of the ring, and if your site satisfies all of the requirements, then you're allowed in.
>they do things differently with these web alliances/unions: it's merely a site that you link to that may have a certain message or stance that your own site aligns with. They provide buttons or banners that you can display on your own site to show that you're a part of this group
>there seems to be some remains of the antiquated practice where the groups did link to those who were a part of... It seems that link rot became a major problem as a lot of sites they were linking to shut down (some of these unions were up for more than a decade after all).

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 No.74627

>>74607
Thank you. I'll update your banner as soon as possible.
>>74619
That's really interesting to read. Didn't know eastern webmasters tend to gatekeep their communities that much.

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 No.74645>>74817>>75762

File: 1702047939575-0.gif (31.25 KB, 240x60, 4:1, PsychcoolBanner.gif) ImgOps iqdb

Site: https://psychcool.neocities.org/

RSS: https://psychcool.neocities.org/index.xml

Still learning my way around javascript frameworks, so hopefully parts of my
site will look better in the future.

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 No.74647>>74650>>74652

Dear lains, greetings from scio.icu.

  Recently, I updated my webrings page, added almost all the sites in the ring [1], and made simple annotations [2].
  I don't care about "the webrings page is out of date" or "the website is under construction and there's nothing yet", we all need to contend with busy lives, it just means they need a little time to repair their mood[3]. But I noticed that many sites do not have webrings pages. What do lains think about this?
  I deleted the site that did not contain webrings pages [4]. If I liked him, I would put him in a "recommended site" or something like that and not put him on the lainchan webrings page. But lainchan webrings are decentralized and everyone has their own ideas and I don't think my decision-making will suit anyone else, so I'd like to hear what you think about it.

——
[1]: The original plan was to start from the first webrings thread, but I was a little lazy and directly referenced https://sizeof.cat/post/lainring/.
[2]: I have no intention of judging the quality of the site, so the wording is very broad. The main purpose is to distinguish the amount of content - the definition is also very simple. If there is no content except personal introduction, then it is "little" (I use "个人主页(personal homepage)" as a label). Almost all sites are defined as "个人空间(personal spaces)" (including my own, which broadly refers to people's homes on the Internet).
[3]: But I also have corresponding strategies, such as dividing the area into two areas (including me or not in the ring) and marking them to deal with these problems.
[4]: I forgot to leave a record of the operation. If anyone needs it, I can reorganize it for your reference. I'm on the internet every day and that's not a problem.
——

  Apologies for any grammatical errors or inappropriate word choice, although I visit lainchan frequently, I hardly post as I have to rely on Google Translate to handle conversations.
  Also, the annotation is inspired by: https://web.archive.org/web/20231121080002/https://lainchan.org/%CE%A9/res/70358.html#q71989

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 No.74649>>74650>>74996

Is there any repo or anything with all the links and, if not, ought there be a standardized path where the links are listed in order to easily be identified as a member of the webring?
Something like serving a json file of links at https://website.com/lainchan_webring or whatever. As far as I can tell there are a bunch of frequently listed sites that don't have any webring links at all.

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 No.74650>>74651

>>74649
sizeof keeps json and xml files at this location:
https://sizeof.cat/post/lainring/data/lainring.json
https://sizeof.cat/post/lainring/data/lainring.xml
I don't think there is a standardized path to keep them.
>>74647
I agree 100%, if you don't have the webring page (regardless of how outdated it is) on your website, you don't actually want to be a member of the webring.

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 No.74651

>>74650
>I don't think there is a standardized path to keep them.
Since the webring is strictly decentralized you obviously shouldn't have to list every site, but it would be nice to have a way of programmatically checking if a website still is a part of the webring and what sites it is pointing to.

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 No.74652

>>74647

Hey there, party person.

To answer your question(s): I believe that the rules for joining are immensely simple because it's not about imposing rules upon the web admins who join. Name, address, RSS, image, and "Post". With the hope others would respond and connect with you.

Web admin "A" may want etiquette before adding to their site, such as an attempt to list others on their website. That is their opinion.

Web admin "B" may not have your typical human headspace going on in their lives. Despite having an impressive windmill collection, the web admin decides to not mention anyone. Again, their opinion. Web admin "B" did not break any rules.

I subscribe to the Web admin "A" thought process. It's a community. An attempt should be made for new people to be listed. Even if the attempt is just 3 sites from the many. Fine. I always reserve the right to drop anyone, just as those parts of the ring have the same right.

This is the blessing and the curse of a decentralized webring. You have absolute freedom. Even if that decision is to update once a year. Or maybe even never. That's still your choice.

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 No.74655>>74993>>74996

Honestly I think that it's better to not have an automated way of updating your links page. That way you have to keep your eyes on the thread and actually participate in the community. Where's the magic in set-and-forget for this sort of thing?

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 No.74686

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Updated my button, and added a GIF version.
https://varchar.neocities.org

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 No.74687

>>74426
i totally forgot about that movie. its been so long. thanks for bringing back all those memories.

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 No.74707>>74710

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Added a bunch of sites.
My site was got purged and was down for a while so I think some of you deleted it, you can add it back if you want.
https://xiixiixii.xyz/ring
I also uploaded to mega all my banners and the html code so when someone wants to join they don't have to go through this nightmare of manual labor:
https://mega.nz/folder/3MgwDawB#XeJccP7xwST_AGLCeGGi_g

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 No.74709

https://lainnet.superglobalmegacorp.com/links.html
Has been updated with new entries.

>>74425
Hey, glad you like it!

>>74619
Thanks for reminding me that dobun-doumei still exists. Bit the bullet and decided to register, and I got added automatically. You can find my entry here: http://www.dabun-doumei.com/data/20296.html

I suggest everyone here to give it a shot as well!

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 No.74710

>>74707
Oh and the tor sites are very outdated, if someone has fresh links and banners let me know so I can update too!

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 No.74715

Does anyone know if lux in tenebris changed address or will be up again at some point?

I really liked it, but it's been down for awhile, and I don't have a siterip.

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 No.74717>>74719>>74723>>74738>>74759>>74817

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* Site: https://vendell.online/
* RSS: https://vendell.online/blog/feed.xml

Its hosted through Hostinger, I set that up before I got my homelab to where it is now, but I'm not planning to host it myself any time soon. Lots of googling how to do xyz in HTML/CSS + trial and error on how to make it look right. Though I still feel like it lacks 'soul'. I guess it'll improve with time.

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 No.74719

>>74717
I really like your photos

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 No.74723>>74741

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>>74717
I attempted to access your site over Tor and was hit with a full-screen 403 error.

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 No.74738>>74741

>>74717
403 over Tor. Please fix and add .onion and uncockblock clearnet.

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 No.74741

>>74738
>>74723
Im really unsure whats causing the 403 over Tor, I've pretty much looked at everything. I can offer an onion version of the site, I linked to it on the error page.
http://xjqsg5udycakjniioe6hj7it276vqdhtpszrexdyqni4o2jegevfjaid.onion

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 No.74759

>>74717
>keep the web free
>say no to web3
*he says, from one of the last remaining 5x5 meter islands FAANG hasnt illegalized yet*
the main problem with web3 is that its made by literal webdevs and not cryptoeconomicist cryptoprotocol engineers unlike what they claim

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 No.74760

(admin, edit this into my above post, will you)
blockchains are the intersection of all of
- software engineering
- cryptography
- programming language design, specifically mutually untrusted code (OCAP community has solved this 30-50 years ago yet still remain disjoint from web3 kiddies)
almost nobody is qualified to do this (except me) especially if you're some yuppie who thinks his prestigious university credentials say otherwise, and we have direct proof in what a few trillion dollars of theft and failures

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 No.74769>>74770>>74773>>74775

I have my website up and running and published but any enthusiasm I had for joining the webring has dissipated, I like the idea and most of the sites on it but I don't want to be associated with this dogshit site. Like I don't understand why I even come here anymore other than habit, this is the only good thread

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 No.74770>>74775

>>74769
the internet as a whole declined
there are no more good places
it's a choice
either
eat soykaf in social media
eat soykaf here
as for me soykaf is equally abominable anywhere, so i avoid unnecessary registrations and tracking.
world is fuarrrked
no more fun allowed
fuarrrk

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 No.74773>>74867

>>74769
Just host your soykaf on tor, nobody will know who you are (besides various intelligence agencies), but I understand you and I feel the same. 8chan /tech/ was the last time I had fun in an online space, now that's gone, I've nowhere left to go. IRL people are completely insane, online everything is being replaced by AI content, drowning useful information in an ocean of noise. I don't even want to be part of anything anymore...

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 No.74775>>75762

File: 1702683382819-0.gif (58.58 KB, 240x60, 4:1, slushBanner.gif) ImgOps iqdb

Seeing this is a reintroduction, I'll say I managed to make it work so that both https://slushbin.net and https://slushbin.org work to access my site. So people who had the old url don't need to update

Also my rss feed now is https://slushbin.net/feed.rss , It's empty as of writing, but I'll be pushing any updates on there.

>>74769
>>74770
Message some people on the webring (or on other personal sites) if you find conversations online are trash. I've pretty much always had a good experience with sending someone a mail or receiving one in these circles.

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 No.74778>>75029

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please add my site. ill make the rss js a sec.
https://no-post.neocities.org

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 No.74798

File: 1702768590137-0.gif (3.74 KB, 240x60, 4:1, navyjoecomics.gif) ImgOps iqdb

Cool, we're doing re-introductions! It's pretty good timing (give or take a month) since I've finally updated my copy of the webring.

My site: https://navyjoecomics.neocities.org/
My RSS: https://navyjoecomics.neocities.org/rss.xml

Anyways, hope you're all doing well, and it's nice to see the webring's still going and all the new faces!

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 No.74799

>>74596

I have updated my webring with everyone's banners! They all look super cool and I see some familiar agora travelers as well.

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 No.74817

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0x19 anon, been very busy since august but I am now unemployed yet somehow still not inspired to write about anything. i2pd keeps crashing for me. erno is dead. Send me an email about anything. Here is my reintro.
url: https://0x19.org
feed: https://0x19.org/posts/feed.php
tor: http://ilsstfnqt4vpykd2bqc7ntxf2tqupqzi6d5zmk767qtingw2vp2hawyd.onion:8080
i2p: http://xzh77mcyknkkghfqpwgzosukbshxq3nwwe2cg3dtla7oqoaqknia.b32.i2p:9090
>>73647
checked
>>73670
updated to include i2p.
>>73692
I will include if you add more content.
>>73717
added
>>73804
added. I think I remember this from 4/g/
>>74039
added.
>>74114
please include a copy of the webring.
>>74126
added
>>74240
added. Pls update lainring
>>74277
added
>>74270
added
>>74426
can't add because he doesn't host a lainring himself.
>>74513
added. I do not have soykafhub, only soykaflab.
>>74645
this hurts my eyes but I added regardless.
>>74717
added

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 No.74867>>74870

>>74773
I'm not worried about being doxxed or whatever, I'm thinking about the kind of message or intimation being made by being related to this site.

Look at the posts on this board right now, this is just /g/+, the other boards aren't better with some being far worse, and that's far from the biggest issue with the site now, I'm pretty sure I don't want to link to a place where any potential visitor has a fairly high chance of being exposed to cp.

The webring is a cool collaborative project with a now necrotic mass at the heart of it

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 No.74870

>>74867
then you don't want to be linked to any place at all. why then would you come here and say this? i understand your concern (i don't actually, i have never seen a different internet), but what is the point of your post? the quality will not grow and people like me will only get more disappointed in the wired as a whole.

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 No.74879

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Im going to re-post my banner here because the old version i posted back then was terribly unoptimized

https://skumsoft.ltd/slimenet/

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 No.74880

Pro-tip, if you don't want to pay extra for a VPS that has an ipv4 address, you can use this to make your ipv6 only site accessible to those who only have an ipv4 address:

http://v4-frontend.netiter.com/

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 No.74900

I'm just about done making my website and I gotta buy a domain (already got a vps). Does anyone have any suggestions for buying an anonymous domain with monero?
Following this anons reviews https://crippled.media/free-speech-vps-providers-put-to-the-test It seems like nicevps.net is the only option (that doesn't take away your domain like njalla does if they don't like what you have on your website) but it's been down for 3 days now. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.

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 No.74921>>74922

hello, i'm the operator of newdigitalera.neocities.org. my website has been idle for around 6 months but I'll update it soon and add everyone missing to my webring copy. is sizeof.cat still up to date with the webring?

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 No.74922

>>74921
It looks updated, he posts the date of the last update too.

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 No.74947>>74948>>74950

I just discovered lainchan a few days ago. I was already taking the first steps to make a site. After finding this thread and spending 2 days clicking through all the stuf I've been inspired. I really gotta get on that.

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 No.74948>>74950

>>74947
Same here, I spent most of the day today working on my site. I can't wait to finish it and get it uploaded.

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 No.74950

>>74947
>>74948
My site is up but it is like kicking dead whales down the beach, I will post it here when I manage to make it decent

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 No.74953>>74956

I’m making a static html generator for git repos similar to stagit or cgit, but using go and templates.

Would anyone be interested in this?

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 No.74956

>>74953
Not particularly, no. Sorry, lainon. You should make it because /you/ want to make it, not because you want to impress the users of an anime imageboard. I still wish you best of luck, though ? Golang was pretty hard last time I tried!

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 No.74957>>74958>>74959

When creating a page to display all the other sites in the web-ring, is there some script I can use? Or is it just done manually, adding each site link, and 240x60 pixel banner one at a time into a grid?

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 No.74958

>>74957
get it from riseof.cat

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 No.74959>>74995

>>74957
sizeof has the code to add initially (if you want to add everybody as he does, you can filter the websites though) in this section, but you will have to add the future members manually.
https://sizeof.cat/post/lainring/#webmasters

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 No.74972>>75241>>75247>>75712>>75762

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My site : https://blackorwhite.neocities.org/

I made this site mainly to learn HTML and CSS, because I didn't know anything about it. I also got to play around with a few scripts, which was fun. I plan to write about various subjects on it, and to continue working on the site. For the moment it's on neocities, but I plan to migrate it when I have time

There may be some mistakes, as English is not my mother tongue :<

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 No.74984>>74985

my copy of the ring has gotten slightly outdated (will update soon), but I was getting annoyed at having to copy-and-paste image tags n all to add new sites to my copy of the ring, so I've started storing them all in a database. to retrieve the sites I created a simple API, so if anyone else would like to use it for their copy feel free.

https://jahanrashidi.com/explore/api.php?type=lainchan will return all the sites as a json array
https://jahanrashidi.com/explore/api.php?type=lainchan&format will return all the sites as html
https://jahanrashidi.com/explore/api.php?type=lainchan&format&external will return all the sites as html but with the image src's pointing towards my site instead of as relative links (useful if you want to download the page)
https://jahanrashidi.com/explore/api.php?type=lainchan&format&style will return all the sites as html and style the buttons so that they're all the same size and in a grid pattern
and https://jahanrashidi.com/explore/api.php?type=lainchan&format&external&style is just both style and external together

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 No.74985


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 No.74993

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>>74655
I started a TOR webring a few months ago, sadly I had to bow out after a while because it was too taxing to stay in the way I set up the social structure.
(E.g. it was a hard floating-ground model, so for it to work we'd implicitly have to get through the roots of TOR, through inet infra... wasn't going to work with the quickly gathered set of people.)

Anyway, we had a system for propagating changes to the webring - a machine-readable format for "this link's view of the webring" in a set location, and a simple link-to-link messaging + message ACK system.
That was necessary for my intended floating-ground design, but it wasn't tolerable together with my recruiting tactics.

I also flamed a visitor from this webring for this reason, I'm sorry about that ^^' I really messed up the design from the foundations, that was part of why I felt a need to keep the ring separate from the LainRing.

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 No.74995

>>74959
>>74254
you can use this tool to manage the sites if you want as well

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 No.74996>>75070

>>74619
Great read. I think an aggregate personal web search engine would be cool for western cultures.

>>74649
>>74254
>>74655
Someone is trying to do just that

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 No.75029

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>>74778
too lazy to take it out now but please bring it back up

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 No.75070>>75072

>>74619
I can resonate with the idea of using a personal site as a way to hold your work. I see a lot that are just blogs and that's fine, I have no problem with it. But it feels like these sites could be used to make really cool galleries of your own art.
Some who aren't a part of the webring already do this
https://redeviated-edael-tb.neocities.org/
>>74996
I'm not sure how I feel about an aggregate site. On one hand, it's very easy to find different websites, increasing visibility of this hobby. On the other hand, more people means more people who won't respect the culture of the community already there and bulldoze over it. Besides, finding cool sites through webrings and buttons is fun.

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 No.75072>>75079

>>75070
That's a really cool site you linked. Looks like DeviantArt (even better than it to be honest), before it got fuarrrked up.

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 No.75077

>>74619
while the stereotypical webring site maybe is like this I think the majority of occidental personal sites are work showcases/not meant to be especially interesting by themselves.

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 No.75079

>>75072
I know right? The comment system especially makes me want to make my own pseudo art site that pretends to be a real community site

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 No.75083>>75157>>75241>>75712>>75762

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My site: https://nauxnam.net
My rss: n/a (for now)

I will create a tor address too.

there is so much to update. inspired from oedo808's website, props to him.

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 No.75122>>75123>>75126>>75567

How do you manage wanting to post personal stuff to your website but want to remain anonymous at the same time? Is anonymity worth giving up for the freedom to talk about personal issues?

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 No.75123

>>75122
whatever issue you have, chances are a million other people have had it too. unless you get ultra specific, the chances someone will be able to de-anonymize you by what you write online is slim.


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 No.75155>>75157>>75213>>75241

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New Digital Era has moved to newdigitalera.org
Please update your links!!

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 No.75157

>>75083
added, welcome
>>75155
updated

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 No.75212

this site is so cooked lmaooooo

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 No.75213>>75214>>75234

>>75155
>>74516
coolest sites in this page, im in love with this style

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 No.75214>>75234

>>75213
also great to see fellow spanish speakers

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 No.75234

>>75213
>>75214
thanks! I've found quite a lot of spanish speakers in the webring and in neocities in general. I write my website in english but have thought about writing some parts in spanish to better express myself

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 No.75241


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 No.75247

>>74972
added, somehow I missed your post, sorry.

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 No.75261>>75654>>75712

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* Site: https://torpus.info
* RSS: https://torpus.info/index.xml
* Tech: pretty much everything I learnt from LandChad like many other lains (I'm not that good yet) (nginx, Debian 11 server) but there's a lot more to add.

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 No.75298>>75325

hey, i don't know how interested u dastards would be, but basically: i'm participating in https://indieweb.org/indieweb-carnival - it's like a series of monthly blogging festivals. the founder expressed preference in having new hosts rather than recycling old ones and they said they were kinda busy so I'm helping recruit.

whether or not the indieweb is your jam this brings up a good idea for the ring. Imagine a Lainring Blogging festival! the absolute schizophrenia! it'd b beautiful, we could cycle through hosts and topics and shid. share posts, talk about them.

this place could use a bit more liveliness than drop your link and banner and generally fug off, u know what i am saying? food for thought, yo

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 No.75325>>75326

>>75298
How does it work? The proposal is too brief

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 No.75326>>75335>>75609

>>75325
Basically, how it'd work is:

1) You post an introduction explaining your topic. (1st-ish of month)

Examples:
* https://foreverliketh.is/blog/indieweb-carnival-january-2024-positive-internalization/
* https://dead.garden/blog/indieweb-carnival-december-2023----holiday-and-december-traditions.html

2) You post a your own article on that topic. (during month)

3) You post a round-up summarizing submissions you received (1st-ish of following month)

Examples:
* https://dead.garden/blog/december-23-indieweb-carnival-roundup.html
* https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog/delightful-weathers

People have even combined steps 2 and 3 if you only want to do 2 posts, 1 at the beginning and 1 at the end. There's a couple of minor nuances or two but that's the gist.

It's booked through June now though, you'll be waiting a bit before your turn comes if you sign-up.

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 No.75335>>75609

>>75326
seems interesting, I'm in

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 No.75567

>>75122
I struggle with this as well, but I think the way to handle it is to have defined levels of "contamination", and utilizing those with intent. Limiting the privacy efforts to the stuff that really matters. When it comes to to everyday stuff, however, simply not disclosing your name goes a long way.
You cannot be social and perfectly anonymous at the same time, they are incompatible.

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 No.75568>>76220

>>74270
Hey, as a heads up, your rss feed doesn't include any dates which really fuarrrks with rss readers that sort chronologically.

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 No.75609>>75665>>75724

>>75335
homie, at least drop your site, yo

>>75326
here's my roundup post for january:
https://foreverliketh.is/blog/indieweb-carnival-january-2024-roundup/

Also, the IndieWeb Carnival has been officially booked until January 2025 so, uh, nvm the recruiting.

I still think we should do the lainring blog carnival version, but I'm good on hosting for a bit, so one of u mofos would have to just step-up and start it imo

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 No.75643>>75647>>75654>>75712>>75762

File: 1707176784554-0.png (8.64 KB, 240x60, 4:1, banner.png) ImgOps iqdb

Site: https://gau7ilu.xyz/
Banner: https://gau7ilu.xyz/res/banner.png
Atom feed: https://gau7ilu.xyz/atom.xml
I've had some issues adding it to my rss reader. It works on most other readers and the validator site thinks it's fine, so I'm not sure what the issue is.
I'll probably update the banner at some point, so please feel free to add it using the link.

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 No.75647>>75649>>75652

>>75643
does not load for me.

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 No.75649>>75652

>>75647
Oof, I cheaped out and got a server with only an ipv6 address. Working on fixing it now.

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 No.75652

>>75647
>>75649
Should work for ppl without ipv6 now as well, sorry about that.

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 No.75654

>>75261
Added because I appreciate people running tor and i2p mirrors (even if I can't keep mine online for some reason). Your youtube link is broken. please add a copy of lainring :)
>close one door, another opens
>>75643
added.
>Sometimes I just get the urge to write, and other times I get into heated arguments which don't fit within the character limit of a tweet or a youtube comment.
I agree with this sentiment. Nothing of value has ever been communicated in 280 characters or less.

unrelated 0x19 meta: new project is mostly functional at this point. Been writing non-tech things there. I've ran out of ideas for tech blogs.

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 No.75655>>75666

Reposting bc I had to change the domain. Couldn't update before cause I was taking a break from the nets (-‸ ლ)

* Site: https://lyricaltokarev.neocities.org/
* RSS: https://lyricaltokarev.com/blog/rss
* Tech: pi 4 with debian, nodejs, mysql and my moms basement

Some of the buttons on that neocities site lead to my "main" self-hosted website but I'm linking the neocities one because their servers are more stable than my own ig.

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 No.75662>>75674>>75712>>75762>>76218

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* my site: https://wotaku.moe

Using vitepress as static page builder.

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 No.75665>>75666

>>75609
newdigitalera.org
Im gonna be a lil busy in february but we could get things moving in march and do something related to Spring

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 No.75666>>75673

>>75655
updated
>>75665
can't add because no lainring. I'm conflicted on if I add a non-personal site also.

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 No.75670>>75671

Why isn't this incorporated into the webring?
https://www.0x19.org/posts/2023-06-14.php

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 No.75671>>75676>>75682>>75685>>75768

>>75670
I am 0x19 anon. One of my non-lainring friends and I couldn't agree on how to actually achieve a working standard. We came up with somewhat of a multi-ring idea where you have ring1 peers and their ring1 peers that are not in your ring1 become your ring2 peers and so on. This would help reduce overall spam in the event that one person adds a spam server to the ring. The other issue is that it would require that everyone in the webring actually runs their own server. I have a more robust proposal here but the main issue was always that peer to peer networks that run on shell scripts is how everyone gets hacked in 2 seconds.
https://gitlab.com/binrc/unnamed-webring-project

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 No.75673>>75674

>>75666
look again more calmly this time...

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 No.75674

>>75673
i think they meant to reply to >>75662

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 No.75676>>75682>>75691

>>75671
I very much agree with the sentiment of your post, so I wrote a little thing in response: https://gau7ilu.xyz/writings/dring_response.html

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 No.75682>>75691

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>>75671
>>75676
Picrel is an interesting use-case for webrings.
Unfortunately, I think your current proposals would break down if bots or other hostile entities decided to bandwagon onto the webring.

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 No.75685>>75691

>>75671
I like the idea, but it seems like this would do away with the wall of banners setup that this has got going currently, correct? otherwise I see no way to build that again with this where I 1) cant get banners easily and 2) wouldnt see a way to get full rings without scraping across all the sites that have such files in root.

- enjoyer of current wall of random sites per site experience and no complicated, standardized or centralized 'ring'. cheers from >>73647

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 No.75691>>75693>>75697>>75698

>>75676
We tried to recreate how social circles work in the real world instead of just having a massive list.
ring1: my friends who I trust
ring2: the people my friends trust who I trust based on the recommendations of my friends
ring3: the people my friends' friends' trust (probably spam)

The second goal was "trivial to implement in code". This is because no one agrees on licensing and languages. We usually think in terms of "how can I parse in C or shell or python without a library?" so this leaked into the proposal. Json is too complicated which is why we went with a key:value system, delimited by newlines, with each record delimited by double newlines.
Anti ddos was the third goal and is why we chose cron. If you prepend `sleep $RANDOM; ` it becomes trivial to run a program at a random time. This is standard for auto-updates with cron.
Thank you for the response. I appreciate it a lot.
>>75682
I have only briefly visited frens/g/ but it's very slow. Hackability was another reason we didn't actually implement any code. It is not ethical to create a p2p system that is trivial to exploit.
>>75685
1) if you don't hate hotlinking banners become easy, just add $DOCROOT/banner.png to the standard. 2) Because the proposal is fully p2p and not distributed, there would be no way to get an authoritative record for every host on the network without querying every host. This choice was deliberate and intentional due to the feudalization/balkanization we see in federated networks like mastodon. 3) The goal was not to change lainring but to figure out a separate webring that is automatic and p2p. standardization is required for p2p to work.
For standardization, the word is used wrong. The "standard" is simply a file format. The "writing a client" paper that does not exist would suggest to explicitly support certain fields and ignore the rest as a way to enable extensibility without creating unnecessary burden for you to constantly keep up with the current popular fields.
Thanks for reading.

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 No.75693>>75697

>>75691
i'd just add websites to my copy of the webring manually, this seems like too much work for such a simple task

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 No.75697

>>75691
Simplifying the implementation to allow running multiple instances on the same server could make it more manageable.

>>75693
Manually curating connections in your segment of the webring is straightforward and ensures a quality network. Yet, this approach has its drawbacks, like the risk of broken links from inactive participants. Streamlining the process to minimize maintenance while retaining personal connection preferences could be beneficial.

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 No.75698

>>75691
As I said in my response; I don't see the utility in keeping a ring2 list on your instance beyond rendering it on your own page, at which point you should just curate the list and add it to your ring1.
Eliminating anything beyond ring2 would remove the need for a script entirely, which is the biggest hurdle to make this work. I also think that a node's direct neighbors should be considered a part of its record, which they should have final authority over.

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 No.75708>>75712>>75762

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After being down for well over a year and a half now, I finally got https://www.tyxton.net back up and running.

For the more out of date rings, I'm probably still on there, but for those who actively check whether a site is up or not and remove accordingly, this soykaf site is finally back online.

Trying to figure out what kinds of services to offer as well, lmk what you think I should implement

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 No.75712>>75733

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* My site: https://lainnet.superglobalmegacorp.com
* My RSS: https://lainnet.superglobalmegacorp.com/rss.xml
* My tech: Hosted on a Debian 12-based VPS (now under a Proxmox deployment!) with nginx acting as a frontline web server and reverse proxy for certain URLs, with Apache Web Server serving most of the site's content.

Long time no see. Quite a few things have been happening lately in life: getting a new job, graduating university, yatta yatta.

Some of the new content added to the site include a guide on how to deploy your own Sylverant server for Phantasy Star Online and a brand-spanking new 640x400 animated banner!.... also I devised a simple CAPTCHA system to fight off the relentless amount of Russian spambots that have been attacking my bulletin board lately. I figure they might be scraping the links we put here and into our webring mirrors, so do make sure you guard your contact forms and whatnot.

The following pages have been added to LainNet's link mirror
>>74972
>>75083
>>75261
>>75643
>>75662

>>75708
Welcome back, you've been added once more.

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 No.75719>>75720>>75721>>75733

should I bother making a mobile-friendly design?

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 No.75720>>75722

>>75719
I say yes, in fact, i've read to consider making mobile-friendly first, then desktop. but if you're picking only one: i say desktop. you probably don't want mobile readers anyway.

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 No.75721>>75722

>>75719
For the most part, yes. A good portion, if not majority, of web browsing is done on the phone nowadays. In webdev we always say to design for mobile first.

Though, mobile users aren't always what you want your main traffic to be, so you don't have to, at that point it comes down to personal preference.

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 No.75722>>75723

>>75721
>>75720
fuarrrk... my aesthetic sryle doesn't play well with small, vertical screens

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 No.75723

>>75722
I don't have my site configured for mobile, the fuarking navi bar takes up half the screen on mobile.

Could go through the process of changing it, but honestly I'm not worried about it.

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 No.75724>>75725

>>75609
Forgot to mention this month's IndieWeb Carnival topic: Digital Relationships.

"The meaning of the topic is intentionally vague but I can think of at least three ways to interpret it. The first is probably the most obvious: relationships between us human beings that are lived primarily—or entirely—on the digital world. The second is the relationship between us and the digital world itself. The third is the growing trend of people having relationships with digital creations such as AI fiends, boyfriends and girlfriends."

https://manuelmoreale.com/indieweb-carnival-digital-relationships

I'm not going to constantly bring up the carnival, but I thought this topic would be of sufficient relevance and interests to a bunch of Lain worshipers.

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 No.75725

>>75724
yeah I get it, I was actually gonna post something about it before but I want to do some more work on my end before I do anything. I already got a topic in mind

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 No.75729>>75733>>75742>>75876

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 No.75733

>>75719
I try to keep slow and unreliable connection speeds in mind. This is primarily what I consider to be the issue with modern "mobile first" design - it's not actually mobile first. portrait vs landscape is a separate issue. You can do this using media queries. Browsers that do not support CSS well will usually default to something that looks a lot like the mobile site.
You can copy this, wrap everything in a div with the appropriate class, and it will mostly just work. https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_rwd_mediaqueries.asp
>>75712
verified
>>75729
added

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 No.75738>>75739>>75744>>75747>>75852>>76205>>76218>>76272>>76317

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the first edition of the lainchan web festival is on!
https://newdigitalera.org/special/lainchan-web-festival-march-2024

Since it's the first time and it's already february 11th, I'm running this first edition until march 31st to give everyone time to plan and submit their writing. Next editions should run on a monthly basis

**theme**: nature

participate!

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 No.75739

>>75738
Oooh, I like this. If I come up with an cool idea I'll submit something to this

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 No.75742>>75747

>>75729
btw, updated my websites to add the webring:

https://nihilism.network/webring.html
https://datura.network/webring.html

mentionned the largest webring keepers on top and removed the dead sites.

(btw thanks to the bear lainon who sent me a mail, but unable to respond to you on mail cuz spf record fails)

my lain radio music playlists as requested:
https://lain.nihilism.network/file-list/focus.html
https://lain.nihilism.network/file-list/nihilism.html
https://lain.nihilism.network/file-list/temple.html

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 No.75744>>75745

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>>75738
btw, started using images with <img> srcsets of jpeg-xl and jpg/png as alternative. should work in all browsers, but tell me if it doesn't. it saves a lot of memory!!!

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 No.75745

>>75744
forgot the stats of that image.
original filesize PNG: 8.1MB
q90 mozJPEG compressed: 738KB
q90 jpeg-xl compressed: 396KB

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 No.75747>>75762

>>75738
so fugging B-A-S-E-D!! Incredible work, yo! And yes I totally agree on the time extension, and I'm so glad you didn't let the mid-month launch stop you! I will definitely participate.

>>75742
What am I chopped liver? Add me yo.

Speaking of: Why the fug r we re-introducing ourselves? As if this ring isn't challenging enough, I'm constantly wasting time on sites I had already added; god bless more dedicated managers like sizeofcat, I am able to follow using their copy.

But if we're doing this shid anyways:

My site: https://foreverliketh.is/
My RSS: https://foreverliketh.is/blog/index.xml
My banner: https://foreverliketh.is/docs/connectivism/home-page/lainring/foreverliketh.is.gif

I'm not gonna say nothing, I am who I am and if you give a shid, you'd visit my site and R-E-A-D.

That said, some of you hoes don't have me on your rings, or have my first, ugly-azz banner, pls fix that, yo. Also, here's my new svg logo... Irrelevant, but I'm really proud of it:

My logo: https://foreverliketh.is/flt-black.svg

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 No.75762

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Time to add every site i missed in this thread:
https://nihilism.network/webring.html
https://datura.network/webring.html

>>73797
added, nice list btw

>>74270
added

>>74645
MY EYES, but added anyway

>>74775
added

>>74972
added
>>75643
added

>>75083
added, neat webring list btw

>>75662
added

>>75708
you have a SSL issue m8

>>75747
added

BTW i forgot to introduce my websites:
>https://datura.network running privacy front-ends on a gigabit dedicated server
im taking suggestions for new privacy front-ends you'd like me to host, and other services

>https://nihilism.network running my technical Blog (for self hosting, anonymity guides, and hackthebox writeups, along with some binary exploitation), also running a lainradio

for this one, i'm taking suggestions to add new tutorials on cool technologies you'd like to have a tutorial for

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 No.75768>>75769

>>75671
nobody likes my proposal wahh. i think inevitably we will figure out a lowtech-lowtrust solution for this problem.

>>74254
I made a myspace clone if anyone wants to check it out. hopes is to one day see a tor instance. still need to build out core features but blogging works.

will update site soon.

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 No.75769>>75773

>>75768
retarded and forgot link
https://anyspace.3to.moe

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 No.75773>>75774

>>75769
reminds me of https://spacehey.com/
I was almost hoping gaben would have the audio from this https://youtu.be/fkcIH6DeBUM
I remember one of the issues with myspace and related clones is that users can not only modify the css but that they can modify the html. Sammy worm is the main reason I'm afraid of allowing users to edit html. CSS only seems to be safer but CSS injection that can be used for XSS still makes me worry.

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 No.75774

>>75773
yeah, it's basically a clone of spacehey, i couldn't find a good opensource myspace clone so i made one. it has built in support for myspace customization, injected code is sanitized server-size.

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 No.75797>>75802

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Today is the first anniversary of my website. Thank you to everyone who has helped me and given me feedback.
https://maerk.xyz/blog/a-year-in-review/

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 No.75802>>75803

>>75797
https://maerk.xyz/blog/please-delete-your-social-media-accounts/
I wrote something very similar. It feels like so long ago that I wrote this.
https://0x19.org/posts/2021-11-25.php

Delete your facebook. https://youtu.be/KbS-dKD4c9I

>I don’t care about the numbers. It’s just nice to know that someone is reading the soykaf I’m spewing.

This hits hard. Thank you for being relatable.

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 No.75803

>>75802
>>75802
I've shared my own grievances with SNS sites at the end of 2022: https://lainnet.superglobalmegacorp.com/blog/2022_12_26_n01.html

Glad to see I'm not the only one.

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 No.75806

For those of you who are interested to get a host for your website and don't have the necessary budget or time, I would recommend giving NordicVM's free tier webhosting a shot, just to get your feet wet with putting your website up and running! It also includes free e-mail hosting as well as a nice bonus! Good luck!

https://client.nordicvm.com/index.php?rp=/store/web-hosting/web-n01v

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 No.75842

>>73883
I really love the design.

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 No.75843>>75848>>75907>>76218

>a link to your website
https://splashy.neocities.org
> a 240x60 banner of your website
see picrel
>Share your tech stack.
i just use vscodium with the live preview extension. sometimes i copy and paste the localhost link to my browser so i can have the preview on a different monitor while being able to test how the website looks and functions on different browsers. the website's layout is entirely original. i kinda just built it on my own while occasionally looking up how to do some more advanced soykaf as i needed to.

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 No.75848

>>75843
Added, welcome to the Lainring! Glad to see a fellow Windows 7 enjoyer.

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 No.75852>>75907

>>75738
we have our first entry!!

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 No.75876

>>75729
really like your style for writing HTB writeups! thanks for sharing your site, lain

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 No.75884>>75893

https://3xf.eu/ is down. It wasn't updated in a long time, but it cannot be acessed anymore.

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 No.75893>>75895>>75907

>>75884
do dead websites go to heaven?

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 No.75895

>>75893
As long as they were virtuous websites who sinned not against their users, they go to spend eternity in Zombo com. You can do anything at Zombo com. The only limit is your imagination. Zombo com. Welcome.

The bad ones go to hell where they endlessly relive lives as mid-2000s middle-schoolers' Xanga blogs, incoherent keyword spam pages, and the less interesting of the Neopets sub-forums

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 No.75907>>75974>>75985

>>75843
Please host a copy of the webring. My purist GNU/ideology prevents me from adding websites that hotlink instead of host their own.
>>75852
I've been meaning to send you an email about this for almost two weeks now. It is long winded and I am struggling to come up with anything to write :)
>>75893
they go to archive.org and NSA data centers. This is a fate much worse than the implications of finding yourself at a UAC base on mars, realizing that the corporation opened up portals to hell on Phobos and Deimos, realizing that you are the last doomguy left alive as your entire platoon has died on Phobos, getting teleported to Deimos to find out that it's infested with demons, and fighting your way down to the surface of hell just to teleport back home on earth to realize that the entire planet has been taken over by demons which is truly *Hell on Earth*.

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 No.75974

>>75907
>I've been meaning to send you an email about this for almost two weeks now. It is long winded and I am struggling to come up with anything to write :)
use your imagination! the topic is ambiguous on purpose

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 No.75985>>75999

>>75907
https://splashy.neocities.org/webrings
done
i'll do something about the duplicate links for other protocols some time in the future

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 No.75991>>75993

Yess! I would love to join:3 Set up a banner yesterday and will just fix the webring links as soon as I have time.

Also need to figure out the relationship between my new blog/garden site (Built with astro and deployed with netlify) and my personal site (Just html deployed from github). Maybe could migrate the old site over to some hidden corner of the new blogarden and put the whole thing on one domain.

Will post the site(s) when I set up the webring links:p

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 No.75993>>75998

>>75991
Do eet! :)

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 No.75998>>75999>>76206>>76218

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>>75993
Ok, added the webring to my site! Thnx sizeof(^ↀᴥↀ^) for the Json. I haven't managed to look though the sites or the list even, but yukinu for example has very different sites in the index than sizeof.cat. Would be cool with a merge. Anyways,

>a link to your website

https://turpelurpeluren.online
>rss feed
https://blogelogeluren.netlify.app/rss.xml
I added all I could find to my reader!
>240x60px banner attached
>my tech stack
Ugly html, js & css deployed to github pages. Building a new blog/garden thing with astro.

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 No.75999

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>>75985
>he uses the ltt forum
I read some of your posts about windows and created low effort bants in response.
added.
>>75998
This is badass. I did something similar a while ago but it was moreso an excuse to write javascript. added.

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 No.76017>>76206>>76218

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I'd like to join. I've been hosting personal sites for years but have always been really lazy with it. Recently I expanded my site and am hoping to write more guides and blog posts. It's still a work in progress so I'd appreciate any feedback.

* My site: https://kinisis.xyz
* My RSS: https://kinisis.xyz/rss.xml
* My Tech: Vultr VPS running Debian with Nginx. I aim to make my site simple & minimalist with no JavaScript or PHP, everything is made up of manually written HTML with some Bash scripts helping to automate the process.

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 No.76203>>76206>>76218>>76267

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I am slowly expanding the content on my website, and would like to join as well
https://eyetower.xyz/
RSS: https://eyetower.xyz/blog/feed.xml
Tech stack: self-hosting on an ubuntu server before, but I decided to move it to GitHub Pages because I often mess with this machine and the uptime will not be satisfactory

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 No.76205>>76219>>76222>>76267>>76272

>>75738
Friendly reminder that the Lainchan Web Festival is gonna need a host for April. Only 4 submissions have been recieved and one of 'em isn't even on the Lainring. That's not a complaint btw, just saying participation is encouraged, but also: maybe due to the slowness of involvement.. making the festival 2 months long, rather than just 1 may be worthwhile? Things to think about.

https://newdigitalera.org/special/lainchan-web-festival-march-2024

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 No.76206

>>75998
> Thnx sizeof(^ↀᴥↀ^) for the Json. I haven't managed to look though the sites or the list even, but yukinu for example has very different sites in the index than sizeof.cat.
Could be because I started with the copy from Ophanim, but I always had the impression that the websites are the same, just the ordering is different. I might be wrong, though.
>>76017
>>75998
Added a while ago, forgot to mention that.
>>76203
Added, welcome to the Lainring! Uptime is not important when serving a personal website, if you want to self-host you should definitely do it.

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 No.76218>>76267

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>>73638 (OP)
Changed my banner to this. I'm https://torpus.info/
Please add my Tor mirror:

http://4cg3jkowgmnfgtdxi7xkk5rduuuzirxwz2xl3kjxwfpwprdlqv6rbzyd.onion/

My site is still fuarrrked and there's a lot to change in it lol. I'll figure out how to add some PHP to get a themed directory and automated quote-of-the-day thing.

>>75662

I don't see you having any webring...?

I added you guys:
>>75843
>>75998
>>76017
>>76203

Fuarrrk some just ignore me and put the rest. Things are still messy and I didn't get much onto socializing with other lains yet (I'm kinda new anyway).

>>75738

I'm interested but I'm not much into blogging (I wrote some blogs but there was no HUGO and I don't feel like I need to add it anyway), I'm a videomaker.

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 No.76219>>76267

>>76205
I am working on my submission, slowly.. :3 Probably some other procrastinating Lainions are also waiting to write something up just before deadline.

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 No.76220

>>75568
I added dates but i don't know if it works or not.

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 No.76222>>76506

>>76205
I've been working on a submission, only issue is I write extremely slowly.

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 No.76224

i wanted to add the oneko.js script to my page, and i remember there were multiple .gif sprites but atm i can only find the basic white one

pretty sure there was a page that had a collection of 'em, if anyone could provide a link i'd be grateful

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 No.76226>>76267

maintainer of The Arcade here.(https://articexploit.xyz)
my site is now available on TOR too!
this is the url if you want to add it to your webrings
http://artic725lafwfqnygqxraupupg7dtbf4own767duq2bxj3t7dszvzmid.onion/

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 No.76267>>76317

>>76203
added
>>76218
updated
>>76205
I still like the concept but I'm at an impasse when it comes to coming up with anything to write about. >>76219 either this or chronic writer's block combined with total and absolute burnout
>>76226
updated. Tor only webring when?

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 No.76272>>76317

>>75738
I like this idea, the only issue is I just don't know what to write for it... orz.
I concur with what >>76205 is saying, though. Considering the slowness of the board and to give people more time to write, maybe doing it bi-monthly or quarterly would be better than monthly.

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 No.76317>>76509

>>75738
I have just updated the entry list. 7 people have submitted their story already!
>>76267
>>76272
You still have time to think about something to write. May I suggest a walk through the park to refresh the mind?
The cutoff date for submissions is set to April 1st, but if there's enough consensus that this should last more, I can extend it. I urge people to partiipate in the discussion before the date comes!

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 No.76355

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10 days remaining of the lainchan spring festival!
Those still thinking about the topic should make up their minds :) I need time to go over all posts to make a recap, so please don't wait until the last day!

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 No.76365>>76509

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My site: https://voicedrew.xyz/
My RSS: https://voicedrew.xyz/rss.xml
Lainchan webring mirror: https://voicedrew.xyz/home/#links (it will be there soon)
My tech: My site is hosted on github. I use nvim to edit my pages and push them with git. I have made a few scripts to automate some tasks, such as converting markdown files into full-blown article pages.


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 No.76480

>>76479
Please include a mirror of the webring and maybe some more content.

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 No.76487

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nice but 300x100 is not 240x60, I've taken the liberty to cut it to such. if you mind you can upload another one.
I like the entire imageboard on site. are they terrible to run with the backend or fairly straight forward?

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 No.76488

Tokumei probably did that on accident. Cool beans yo.

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 No.76506>>76514

>>76222
Finally finished what I was working on. Didn't help that I chose the title "Braving the Bitter Cold" when spring is on the way. Feedback appreciated :)
https://gau7ilu.xyz/writings/festival_nature.html

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 No.76509

>>76317
Been going outside a lot since the beginning of Feburary. It doesn't seem to help. Maybe the next theme will be easier for me.
>>76365
added
>>76479
I would like to see more content before I add.

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 No.76514


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 No.76515>>76522

I found a search engine for "old school" sites. Feel free to add your own.
wiby.me

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 No.76522

>>76515
I have known about this for a while. It has a lot of ancient sites but it also has a decent amount of new ones that were built with minimal CSS. Wiby still indexes some sites sites we might call "heavy" which would definitely be unusable on a real "old school" PC. I'm indexed on Wiby.
Thanks for reminding me

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 No.76526>>76556

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 No.76556

>>76479
>>76526
both of these are already down

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 No.76557>>76601>>76649>>76833

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Thanks to all those who participated in the first Lainchan Web Festival! We end this first edition with a grand total of 9 submitted works! I will now go through all of them, reviewing and providing some commentary in a post that will be published soon.

It is now up to the collective of the thread to decide what's next for this event, which I hope will continue.

Love,
new digital era

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 No.76601

>>76557
Thanks for hosting! It was a lot of fun.

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 No.76621>>76649

I'm going to do a series of guest-posting on my website, if you're interested in writing for sizeof.cat check out this note:
https://sizeof.cat/notes/1712403435/

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 No.76649>>76651>>76656

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>>76621
I'm not sure why anyone would want to guest-write for a website that /just/ published a post making fun of junior admins.
https://sizeof.cat/guest/some-statistics-about-sizeofcat-feed-list/
You seem quite unpleasant to work with.
>>76557
Looking forward to the next iteration of the festival! Unfortunately I wasn't able to get something finished in time to participate.

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 No.76651>>76652

>>76649
This is normally not worth addressing but:

I cannot vouch enough for sizeof.cat, having had the opportunity of knowing them beyond just their site.

More tarded than me you won't find and they've always been more than average encouraging / helpful.

Additionally, a better support page for the lainring doesn't exist.

I recognize our sites, in a way, represent us, but we are also so much more than them. A site, no matter how deeply tended cannot encapsulate us.

I hope you reconsider your feelings as perhaps they are a bit hasty / premature. There's nothing about this ring that we all have to be some happy family. But I think we all share more common than differing ground.

And I think the effort sizeof.cat has put into this collective warrants giving a stronger benefit of the doubt than most.

I am also looking forward to the next festival iteration, whoever you are future host, don't feel you have to make a whole design / section for it on your site. newdigitalera just went above and beyond in that aspect.

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 No.76652

>>76651
>don't feel you have to make a whole design / section for it on your site. newdigitalera just went above and beyond in that aspect.
isn't it nice though!? I had a lot of fun making it

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 No.76656

>>76649
Don't take it so hard, my friend. Junior admins are subhuman anyway.

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 No.76750>>76757

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>post on someones board
<site completely gone
>mail someone about a blogpost
<mail undeliverable
why is it always like this

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 No.76757

>>76750
email me pls kthx
the truth is that hobby web is not eternal. They say the internet is forever but it's really not the case. Many times we forget to pay our domain registrar of hosting provider. If a site wasn't big enough to make it to archive.org it's dead forever. Even then, IA deletes things all the time. The internet is only forever by accident or by intention.
Mail delivery problems are usually because smtp is an insecure 40 year old standard held together with spit, duct tape, and DNS. If your DMARC, DKIM, and SPF records do not meet the constantly changing requirements for big mail providers your server is as good as offline.

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 No.76830>>76886

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* My site: https://ful4n.bearblog.dev/
* My RSS: https://ful4n.bearblog.dev/feed/
(everything is in ar)

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 No.76833>>76859

>>76557
I have published the review article for the lainchan web festival go read it now!
https://newdigitalera.org/articles/lainchan-web-festival-march-2024-review.html

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 No.76837>>76886

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I want to start using an RSS reader for stuff like this. But the results are mostly online subscriptions and I missed the boat so I don't have any knowledge of old pre-saas readers.

Couple of questions
Which reader do you guys use?
Is there a list of feeds from the past threads collected somewhere? It sounds easier to be able to add them all then remove the dead ones.

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>>76842
I use https://f-droid.org/packages/com.nononsenseapps.feeder/ on android and newsboat on real computers
if you scroll down I have an OPML file and a list of URLs that you can use with almost any rss reader https://0x19.org/lainring/

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>>76843
>>76844
i realised im too much of a GUI noob. i found "quiterss" and its nice.
thanks a lot for the list of feeds too

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>>76842
I use gnome newsflash because i have no self-respect and because it seems impossible to find any good gui readers. How hard could it be?

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>>76833
Great roundup and thanks for hosting! If anyone is feeling compelled to pick up the festival torch, don't hesitate

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Does anyone in the ring have a site that's NOT technology related?
I was going to post last year but didn't want to be out of place, and I haven't any business making the nth tech-themed blog site when so many others are so much more knowledgeable.

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>>76877
there's nothing wrong with having more tech themed sites in the webring, tech is vast and you probably have a skillset that is more unique than you think (for example, you may have wrote a script for a use case that nobody has come across before or has never been documented, or have used applications in ways others havent before). There is also nothing wrong with writing blog posts on many different topics. I recently wrote a nature-themed blog post for the first time for the lainchan spring festival.

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Howdy all. I have, after I believe half a year, updated my version of the webring with everyone that is in this thread (assuming their site is alive) at https://webring.lain.la. If you want an RSS feed for my site, use my Infrablog at https://infrablog.lain.la/rss.xml.

I do apologize for the delay but I had to move halfway across the United States. All my servers are in a neat rack now. I am more active on my fedi instance at https://comp.lain.la, if you wish to follow me there via 7666@comp.lain.la or email me at the email attached.

Happy webring-ing!

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>>76881
updated
>>76830
Not sure how I feel about non-english. I like japanese because it fits the anime forum attitude. I have added your site. I might eventually add a locale field to help readers find things in their native language.
>>76837
>tirany
:set spell
Added. I would like to read more blog posts from you.
I'm not sure if we can even attribute a political or economical model to open source. I usually think of it as a set of morals and ethics derived from self interest. When we contribute code we are ultimately helping ourselves permanently solve an issue we experience. Everyone else gets our solution as a side effect. We help others with community support because at one time we received community support.
>Freely we have learned; freely teach
I also like to think of the idea that it costs exactly $0.00 to copy and redistribute software over the internet. The only cost is initial development. Price gouging an unlimited resource is scammer behavior and I don't like it. We have to do right by others.
>>76852
they all suck. I tried the gnome one but it would always crash with too many feeds. Liferea does not crash with too many feeds, instead it will ignore updated feeds if it's already cached the item.
>How hard could it be
write an HTML engine and get back to me. The rest is the easy part.
>>76877
Yes but it's entirely separate and I don't cross contaminate. Technology is what brings lains together. You don't have to be the most knowledgeable. There is always someone less knowledgeable than you and it is a good thing to help them. We all start somewhere and we never stop learning. We are all n00bs in one way or another.

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>>76879
The more experience someone has, the more their instructive material is compromised by distance from the beginner's perspective. All fields are perpetually in need of content by people who haven't had time to forget what things looked like before they were known.

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